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Winterized units
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:40 am
by Jagdtiger14
Can I have it confirmed that there is a bug concerning winterized units?
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:59 am
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14
Can I have it confirmed that there is a bug concerning winterized units?
I haven't seen one for a long time now...
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:12 pm
by Majorball68
To clarify, if the defender declines to use an elite winter unit in combat doe this exclude the attacker from including all their elite winter units?
The option for the defender appears and when declined the attacker is no given an opportunity to use winter units in attack.
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:38 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Majorball68
To clarify, if the defender declines to use an elite winter unit in combat doe this exclude the attacker from including all their elite winter units?
The option for the defender appears and when declined the attacker is no given an opportunity to use winter units in attack.
If you've got a saved game, I'll pass it on to Steve for fixing. It's not a bug which is on the bug list (but that is a little behind, I believe).
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:08 pm
by paulderynck
Why would the defender ever decline?? There is no first loss requirement for the defender.
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:22 am
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: paulderynck
Why would the defender ever decline?? There is no first loss requirement for the defender.
I agree on that one. Personally, I believe it should not be asked for the defending side, but be automatic. But even than, if one declines, MWIF should give the attacker the possibility of including winterized units...
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:12 pm
by Jagdtiger14
What's happening is the game is requesting the defender (Soviets) if they want to use the Winterized bonus instead of asking the Germans (Finns). If you pretend the Soviets are the Germans, then make your selection, everything works out fine.
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:48 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: paulderynck
Why would the defender ever decline?? There is no first loss requirement for the defender.
MWIF isn't coded that way.
Using the 1D10 Land CRT, only the attacker can use the benefit of Winterized units.
Using the 2D10 Land CRT, both sides can use the benefit.
The standard rules (for 1D10) state that the first loss "using this benefit" must come from winterized units (there are exceptions).
The program code interprets "using this benefit" to apply to both attacker and defender.
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The bug described above, only occurs if the defender declines.
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:07 pm
by Jagdtiger14
Here is the save. Just advance game. Note: the first thing that will happen is the mini-window to answer the winterized question will be hidden behind the big window, so you will have to use FN+F10 to roll up the large window.
2d10.
RE: Winterized units
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:25 pm
by paulderynck
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: paulderynck
Why would the defender ever decline?? There is no first loss requirement for the defender.
MWIF isn't coded that way.
Using the 1D10 Land CRT, only the attacker can use the benefit of Winterized units.
Using the 2D10 Land CRT, both sides can use the benefit.
The standard rules (for 1D10) state that the first loss "using this benefit" must come from winterized units (there are exceptions).
The program code interprets "using this benefit" to apply to both attacker and defender.
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Right, I misremembered that provision.