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UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:12 pm
by Taxman66
Does the script below mean that the US is not impacted by the Axis conquest of the British Isle(s) (i.e. when the UK moves its government to Toronto) until AFTER Russia is in the war?:
#NAME= UK Surrenders To Axis (USA->Allies)
#POPUP= USA Intensifies War Preparation After The Fall Of The UK
#TYPE= 2
#TRIGGER= 100
#DATE= 1940/01/01
;10-20% mobilization increase towards Allies
; UK politically aligned with Allies and surrendered AND
; USSR politically aligned with Allies and not surrendered
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:10 pm
by sPzAbt653
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 116 [2] [100] [0]
So yes, the USSR must be active at 100% mobilization in order for this one to fire.
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:22 pm
by Taxman66
I wonder what the reasoning behind that is.
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:41 pm
by sPzAbt653
I certainly don't know, but I can take a stab at making something up: If the USA didn't didn't join when the UK was losing, why would they join when the UK surrendered, leaving no Allies for the USA to fight with ? Once the USSR is in, then the USA might jump on the bandwagon, or at least get a little closer.
You might argue that with the UK surrendered, the USA must come to rescue the free world from tyranny.
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:05 pm
by Taxman66
*shrug* I'll just chalk up to what the developers consider balanced.
It does, however, put even more emphasis on USSR mobilization levels.
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:18 pm
by KorutZelva
Capital relocation is not surrendering.
This particular event will fire if the UK relocated to Cairo and then lost it (since Axis unit in Canada brings about USA immediately) or if the Axis conquers Cairo first and then conquer the Isle.
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:31 pm
by Taxman66
The later has happened (i.e. Egypt before the Isle).
However, when the DE to pick where to go occured turns earlier I did pick Canada.
If what you say is true one should never pick Canada (presuming I'm denied this script when Russia does activate). Unless there are a ton UK units waiting to come out on the production table.
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As a side comment there is a perverse incentive for the Axis player not to take Edinburgh once Glasgow and the other western ports are seized. In this situation the UK's income will be 40 or less MPP. Once the Capital moves overseas the convoys reactivate.[right][/right]
RE: UK in Toronto and US Mob question
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:45 pm
by KorutZelva
ORIGINAL: Taxman66
The later has happened (i.e. Egypt before the Isle).
However, when the DE to pick where to go occured turns earlier I did pick Canada.
If what you say is true one should never pick Canada (presuming I'm denied this script when Russia does activate). Unless there are a ton UK units waiting to come out on the production table.
That's what I meant aka If you lose Egypt before the relocation event fires (So don't land in the UK until Egypt is in the bag).
Egypt or Canada. Depends on how confident you are to hold Egypt and keep Spain neutral. Canada gets to supply 8 when USA joins anyway and having a capital there would mean a conquered Iraq-Syria would be at 8 supply via rail line, offsetting some of the lost income. But if the Axis control gibraltar you'll get hit by supply events.