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Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:01 pm
by witpqs
I'm looking to see if this is an issue at all: who is running a 32-bit version of Windows?

All PC's sold for a long time have been 64-bit hardware, but some people might have 32-bit Windows 7 or 10 running on it.

This page shows you how to easily see which you have:
https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001121.htm

The pre-Beta of Intel Monkey was distributed in a 32-bit executable, but I am considering switching over to a 64-bit distribution. If enough people have 32-bit I might make a second, 32-bit, distribution for the time being.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:34 pm
by USSAmerica
I'm pretty sure both of my systems at home are running 64-bit.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:31 pm
by RogerJNeilson
My Mac is 64bit.

Roger

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:35 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

My Mac is 64bit.

Roger
Mmm, in your case then it would also matter which version of Windows (32 vs 64 bit) is running under - what is it? - Parallels/Boot Camp or whichever one you are using.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:43 pm
by RogerJNeilson
Hmm, ok in that case its unfortunately 32bit.

Roger

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:52 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Hmm, ok in that case its unfortunately 32bit.

Roger
I'll figure out something. [:)]

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:53 pm
by RangerJoe
My current system is 64 bit. But if I get an apartment and a computer out of storage, that might be 32 bit.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:54 pm
by RogerJNeilson
ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Hmm, ok in that case its unfortunately 32bit.

Roger
I'll figure out something. [:)]
Current version is fine for my purpose so don't exert yourself if I am a tiny minority of 1......

Roger

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:05 pm
by USSAmerica
Roger, I'm sure you're not the only person still running 32bit Windows versions. Probably another 2 years or so before the vast majority are onto 64bit.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:09 pm
by BillBrown
64-bit Windows 7 here.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:20 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

Roger, I'm sure you're not the only person still running 32bit Windows versions. Probably another 2 years or so before the vast majority are onto 64bit.
I suspect the vast majority already are on 64-bit because it's been a long time since all PC's sold have been 64-bit, and it wasn't too long after that Windows shipping on the PC's was all 64-bit. Roger - and maybe a few others - are in the situation of working with a (likely) older license of Windows which was 32-bit they used to load up Windows on their Mac.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:22 pm
by RogerJNeilson
I use parallels and my copy of Windows is W7. I never did download the 'free' W10 when it was available and wouldn't care to pay them for it these days.

Roger

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:21 am
by Reg

I'm running 32bit Windows 8.1.

My hardware is a bit old (It originally shipped with XP - don't ask how I got the hardware drivers loaded....[X(]).

However the same model laptop runs just fine as Win7 64bit as that is how my work machine was set up (upgraded from Win2000) for several years.

The reason I went for 32bit was that my hardware only supports 4GB of physical memory and since 32bit is limited to 3.65GB and is less resource hungry, why not use the the more efficient installation disk (I have both). [:'(]

However, anyone with modern hardware that supports more than 4GB of memory would be an idiot not to go 64bit. These days I would say that would be just about everyone. [:)]

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:34 am
by Alfred
Agree with Reg that there would be very few people still operating on a 32 bit system.  Of those the majority would be corporations that still maintain XP as their OS.
 
Alfred 

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:57 am
by RichardAckermann
My main PC is using Win 2000, 32 bit. Secondary PC Win98, reserve PC Win95.
Virtual Win98 on main PC for older programs.
One Commodore Amiga 500 for the really old stuff.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:31 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Alfred

Agree with Reg that there would be very few people still operating on a 32 bit system.  Of those the majority would be corporations that still maintain XP as their OS.

Alfred 

I hope they aren't using the internet.

I would actually assume that the vast majority of 32-bit installations these days are Windows 7. Those computers would be about 10-11 years old.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:36 pm
by witpqs
A little perspective adding to comments by Reg, Alfred, and others.

Recent versions of Python do not support Windows XP; Windows 2000 is even older than XP and is not supported. The Intel Monkey pre-Beta, packaged into an executable, uses Python 3.6. I will use Python 3.7 for the Beta. I used 32-bit Python for the pre-Beta but will switch to 64-bit for the Beta and beyond. That will continue to be packaged into an executable with an installer.

I do expect the numbers of people using 32-bit to be really low. I want to see also *who* (in terms of technical expertise) is using 32-bit so I can sort out what to do for supporting that. I almost certainly will not keep a 32-bit Python installation to package a 32-bit version into an installer, so that means using 32-bit Windows for IM will require having the needed version of Python installed. If there are enough people using 32-bit I can make a separate installer so it's easier to install initially and make updates correctly.

I presume many of the people running 32-bit will turn out to be tech savvy folks keeping some older hardware going, or running 32-bit Windows in VM's, etc inside other OS's. But I know we also have many AE folks who just have really old hardware. The stuff running XP, 2000, and so on I won't support because even the basic infrastructure (like the modern Python versions) no longer support those systems.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:41 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Alfred

Agree with Reg that there would be very few people still operating on a 32 bit system.  Of those the majority would be corporations that still maintain XP as their OS.

Alfred 

I hope they aren't using the internet.

I would actually assume that the vast majority of 32-bit installations these days are Windows 7. Those computers would be about 10-11 years old.
A friend of ours died two weeks ago. We've been over there a couple of times since; on Wednesday we were helping get his Windows 7 PC running again so she could get bills paid (legal paperwork will still take a while to sort out). For whatever reason some cables were unplugged even though it was his daily driver. He might just have been in the middle of a little rewiring and not finished it. That machine is from 2005 and is running Windows 7.

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:42 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: RichardAckermann

My main PC is using Win 2000, 32 bit. Secondary PC Win98, reserve PC Win95.
Virtual Win98 on main PC for older programs.
One Commodore Amiga 500 for the really old stuff.
Quite a collection! [X(] [8D]

RE: Query: 32-bit Windows

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:29 pm
by rustysi
ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: RichardAckermann

My main PC is using Win 2000, 32 bit. Secondary PC Win98, reserve PC Win95.
Virtual Win98 on main PC for older programs.
One Commodore Amiga 500 for the really old stuff.
Quite a collection! [X(] [8D]

A veritable museum of machines and OS's.[:D]