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USS Anzio
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:34 pm
by spence
It's the beginning of June 1943 and I just got the first of 50 or so CVEs built in the city I live in (Vancouver WA across the river from Portland OR): USS Anzio. It's kind of interesting that the ship is named after a battle that won't occur in the real world for another 7 months.
I notice on my ship availability list that another CVE, USS St Lo also shows up 7 or so months before the battle it's named after occurs.
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:18 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: spence
It's the beginning of June 1943 and I just got the first of 50 or so CVEs built in the city I live in (Vancouver WA across the river from Portland OR): USS Anzio. It's kind of interesting that the ship is named after a battle that won't occur in the real world for another 7 months.
I notice on my ship availability list that another CVE, USS St Lo also shows up 7 or so months before the battle it's named after occurs.
Both those ships were renamed during the war. Obviously the development team decided to go with what they ended the war as, leading to them arriving with names that seem out of place.
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:38 pm
by JeffroK
Anzio was Alikula Bay before Coral Sea before Anzio.
St Lo was Midway then Chapin Bay before St Lo..
Coral Sea served in the Gilbert, Marshall & Mariana campaigns, Midway saw service off Saipan, Tinian & Morotai
From wiki
The Casablanca-class initially continued the US Navy's policy of naming escort carriers after bays and sounds, in this case the numerous inlets of the Alexander Archipelago that form the southwest coastline of Alaska, though several were subsequently renamed to carry on the US Navy's tradition of naming aircraft carriers after battles. Those ships that appear to be named after islands, seas, straits or cities actually commemorated battles fought at those locations. Several had their original "Bay" names changed to battle names while under construction, and two of them (Midway and Coral Sea) lost their battle names mid-career to new Midway-class carriers, becoming USS St. Lo and USS Anzio respectively. Unlike the larger Essex and Independence-class carriers, none were named to commemorate historical naval vessels.
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:48 pm
by dasboot1960
The things I learn reading these threads!
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:52 pm
by Macclan5
You can rename them yourself as well you are aware ?
As in you have the opportunity before they arrive.
Perhaps you could really confuse your opponent naming it the Gulf of Tonkin Incident ? Thereby you get a Gulf nomenclature with a future event [8D]
One wit on the forums - when I was very new - I cannot recall who - suggested he rename all his Allied Essex Carriers Zuikaku [:D]
Imagine the combat report on that....
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:40 pm
by BillBrown
Only some ships can be renamed, and I doubt they are included in that.
As far as I remember, all of the ones that can be renamed have a name ending in II.
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:21 pm
by dave sindel
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
Only some ships can be renamed, and I doubt they are included in that.
As far as I remember, all of the ones that can be renamed have a name ending in II.
I believe this is correct. It's also possible to rename some DD's. I have DD's named after family members. My dad and brother both served in the Navy. My stepfather was an F86 pilot in Korea - but he got a Fletcher Class DD in his honor. All three of my grandsons have a DD in their name.
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:22 am
by PetrOs
ORIGINAL: dave sindel
I believe this is correct. It's also possible to rename some DD's. I have DD's named after family members. My dad and brother both served in the Navy. My stepfather was an F86 pilot in Korea - but he got a Fletcher Class DD in his honor. All three of my grandsons have a DD in their name.
Yes, some cruisers can be renamed too, usually the ones originally named after sunk ones, or those which are automatically added to replace sunken ones.
In my case however I would have preferred renaming some soviet vessels - all 4 my greatgrandfathers fought in WW2, and 3 of them got the Hero of Soviet Union award (highest one in USSR).. Naval fighter pilot of Baltic Fleet (later political officer, as incapacitated to fly due to heavy injury in April 42, 17 kills until then), Infantryman (posthumous, held the german motorized column for several hours with only 2 other soldiers one of whom was his son on a forest road between a river and a swamp with a machine gun, some SMGs, AT rifle and lots of grenades and molotovs, thus allowing his regiment to pull back and prepare defensive positions, he and his son fallen in battle, third guy escaped heavily injured), naval bomber pilot of Baltic fleet (participant of Niobe attack, and HOSU "on aggregate" at the war end), and tank man (serving all the war through in KV-1, later T-34 platoon commander, and IS-2 Company then Battalion commander...)
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:13 pm
by Kull
ORIGINAL: PetrOs
ORIGINAL: dave sindel
I believe this is correct. It's also possible to rename some DD's. I have DD's named after family members. My dad and brother both served in the Navy. My stepfather was an F86 pilot in Korea - but he got a Fletcher Class DD in his honor. All three of my grandsons have a DD in their name.
Yes, some cruisers can be renamed too, usually the ones originally named after sunk ones, or those which are automatically added to replace sunken ones.
In my case however I would have preferred renaming some soviet vessels - all 4 my greatgrandfathers fought in WW2, and 3 of them got the Hero of Soviet Union award (highest one in USSR).. Naval fighter pilot of Baltic Fleet (later political officer, as incapacitated to fly due to heavy injury in April 42, 17 kills until then), Infantryman (posthumous, held the german motorized column for several hours with only 2 other soldiers one of whom was his son on a forest road between a river and a swamp with a machine gun, some SMGs, AT rifle and lots of grenades and molotovs, thus allowing his regiment to pull back and prepare defensive positions, he and his son fallen in battle, third guy escaped heavily injured), naval bomber pilot of Baltic fleet (participant of Niobe attack, and HOSU "on aggregate" at the war end), and tank man (serving all the war through in KV-1, later T-34 platoon commander, and IS-2 Company then Battalion commander...)
You can do that yourself. Just edit an existing scenario and change the names of any of the existing Soviet DDs. You could even put the infantry guys in as "leaders" of Soviet ground units and add your pilot great grandfather as a "named pilot" for any of the Soviet air units.
If you'd like to see them in game even sooner you could even create a "Soviet Volunteers" group (hey, alternate history, why not?) and assign all of them to one of the AVG units and follow them through the war.
RE: USS Anzio
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:33 am
by PetrOs
That sounds like a good plan!
I in fact thought about adding the "Soviet Volunteer" group in China as a scenario, and also add some soviet fighters/tanks replacements for chinese units. They were in reality pulled off in 1941, but it could also have been kept, and also probably upgraded to some Mig-3/Lagg-3/Yak-1 mix.