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Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:25 pm
by warspite1
So my fellow noob AllenK and I have decided to throw ourselves in at the deep end and try a full campaign game. I tried Coral Sea as the Allies a few times circa 10 years ago, got creamed and haven't been back since. I think that this provides the perfect background to try a full campaign as the Japanese......

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:31 pm
by Canoerebel
Hey, good for you! We see you so often that you seem like one of us. It's great that you diving into a PBEM match.

Do I understand you correctly that you haven't played the game in about ten years, and then only short scenarios?

I hope you'll have as much fun, and find it as rich and challenging, as so many of us have. Oh, and please remember to start a new thread: Georgia Beauties.

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 pm
by Anachro
Nice to have you back, Warpite. Here's to a good game and please do your best to sink the old horse, BB Warspite!

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:44 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Do I understand you correctly that you haven't played the game in about ten years, and then only short scenarios?

I hope you'll have as much fun, and find it as rich and challenging, as so many of us have. Oh, and please remember to start a new thread: Georgia Beauties.
warspite1

That is correct Canoerebel. As someone with a WWII obsession (and the naval war in particular) this was a game I really wanted to play. But, as much as I wanted to, I just couldn't get into it. I recently played TOAW IV's Pacific campaign and had some fun with that - but it was just waaaay to unrealistic to keep the interest. But what it did do was spark the appetite to try this again. So, for better or worse, here goes...

Oh as for Georgia Beauties, I have made a temporary amendment in the General Discussion forum [;)]

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:50 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Anachro

Nice to have you back, Warpite. Here's to a good game and please do your best to sink the old horse, BB Warspite!
warspite1

Don't be ridiculous man. I may have the Kido Butai, Bettys, Nells and Long Lance torpedoes with which to send the USN to the bottom of the Pacific, but I wouldn't kid myself that I could possibly sink the Grand Old Lady!


[:D]

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:42 pm
by RangerJoe
Have fun.

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 pm
by Bif1961
Welcome back yours dreams are your ticket out.

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:45 am
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Anachro

Nice to have you back, Warpite. Here's to a good game and please do your best to sink the old horse, BB Warspite!
warspite1

Don't be ridiculous man. I may have the Kido Butai, Bettys, Nells and Long Lance torpedoes with which to send the USN to the bottom of the Pacific, but I wouldn't kid myself that I could possibly sink the Grand Old Lady!

[:D]
Yes, kinda like when you had those undamageable ships in War In Flames.

RE: You thought real life Japan were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:45 pm
by DanSez
Good luck.

Don't forget to set all Upgrades and Repairs OFF.
Do it globally. You can turn on upgrades and repairs as you get to it.
Focus on the war the first couple of turns.

The only Air and Engine production you really need to turn on for turn one is the front line Army and Navy Fighters and increase the Navy Carrier bombers production and leave their production on.

Check Supply Stockpile levels on all cities with Aircraft and Engine factories (pump up supply one or two clicks). The Industry Screen is your friend.

The rest can reasonablly wait till turn 3 when you can look at supply distribution and start planning which factories to expand and change/target your R&D.


RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:56 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: warspite1

So my fellow noob AllenK and I have decided to throw ourselves in at the deep end and try a full campaign game. I tried Coral Sea as the Allies a few times circa 10 years ago, got creamed and haven't been back since. I think that this provides the perfect background to try a full campaign as the Japanese......

Jolly good mate. Jolly, jolly good. Looking forward to following this in detail. [8D]

Are you exchanging turns yet, or will this be akin to the Gorn's "AAR" wherein nearly all of the posts took place before hostilities commence?

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:42 pm
by warspite1
No, we've not exchanged turns yet as we've (i.e. I've) had technophobe issues trying to get the game, patches and scenarios loaded.

However, hopefully this is now sorted and I will be looking to get the game started now.

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:43 pm
by warspite1
Game Version: 1.8.11.26b
Scenario 1 (Andy Mac Update from 2012)

Realism Options
Fog of War: ON
Advanced Weather: ON
Allied Damage Control: ON
Player Def Upgrades: ON
Historical First Turn: ON
December 7th Surprise: ON
Reliable USN Torpedoes: OFF
Realistic R+D: ON
No Unit Withdrawals: OFF
Reinforcement: FIXED for both sides

Game Options
Set All Facilities to Expand at the Start: OFF
Automatic Upgrade Ships and Air Groups: OFF
Turn Cycle: 1-day
All other options are ON.

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:05 pm
by mind_messing
Are you using Andy Mac's scenario updates?

Makes a difference for Japan - Okha's work, along with some ASW and AA tweaks and some other stuff.

Welcome to the dark side!

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:07 pm
by warspite1
Yes, we are using these.

I have gone through the first part of the set up.

In the SAVE file I have the game I've saved: wpae003.pws. Presumably I can just ZIP this and send to my opponent?

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:20 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Yes, we are using these.

I have gone through the first part of the set up.

In the SAVE file I have the game I've saved: wpae003.pws. Presumably I can just ZIP this and send to my opponent?

You can zip or just directly attached the 001 file and the 003 file. They're not that big filesizes.

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:22 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Yes, we are using these.

I have gone through the first part of the set up.

In the SAVE file I have the game I've saved: wpae003.pws. Presumably I can just ZIP this and send to my opponent?

You can zip or just directly attached the 001 file and the 003 file. They're not that big filesizes.
warspite1

Why the 001 file?

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:04 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Yes, we are using these.

I have gone through the first part of the set up.

In the SAVE file I have the game I've saved: wpae003.pws. Presumably I can just ZIP this and send to my opponent?

You can zip or just directly attached the 001 file and the 003 file. They're not that big filesizes.
warspite1

Why the 001 file?

I tried to explain but made a hash of it, here's the best link - tm.asp?m=2180809

If you're not using it already, I'd strongly recommend Tracker for Japan. It's absolutely invaluable as a time-saving tool for matters of organisation, production and industry. Saves on the screeds of paper that you'd need for notes as Japan as well.

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:21 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Yes, we are using these.

I have gone through the first part of the set up.

In the SAVE file I have the game I've saved: wpae003.pws. Presumably I can just ZIP this and send to my opponent?

I agree with the Scot. Don't bother 'zip'ping the 001 or the 003 turn save before emailing it. Turns are only 2-4MB unencrypted. Why introduce another issue with incompatible 'zip' software if you don't need it?

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:23 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: mind_messing




You can zip or just directly attached the 001 file and the 003 file. They're not that big filesizes.
warspite1

Why the 001 file?

I tried to explain but made a hash of it, here's the best link - tm.asp?m=2180809

If you're not using it already, I'd strongly recommend Tracker for Japan. It's absolutely invaluable as a time-saving tool for matters of organisation, production and industry. Saves on the screeds of paper that you'd need for notes as Japan as well.

Two schools of thought on playing the Japanese. One is that you MUST have Tracker. The other, to which I subscribe, is that you don't NEED it. There are some rules of thumb and general trends to follow that, along with 'Kentucky windage' will get you where you need to be.

RE: Thought the real Japanese were incompetent? warspite1 (J) vs AllenK (A)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:48 pm
by Zorch
I had to look it up: Kentucky windage is "An adjustment made by a shooter to correct for wind (or motion of the target) by aiming at a point horizontal to the target's position in the sight rather than by adjusting the sight to compensate."

The corollary is 'Arkansas elevation' - "A shooter's adjustment by aiming higher than the target's position in the sight to allow for the bullet's drop during travel rather than adjusting the sight."

Thank you, CB.