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Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:22 pm
by jack54
The recent tendency to list a specific graphic card for minimum requirement is making me nuts. Now I find myself going to 'hardware comparison' sites and then trying to decipher the various graphs. I can accept that my my 6 yr old computer will not play graphically intense games as upgrading the GPU is not an option for now. (I was looking at a Gtx 1050 3 GB upgrade for about $200).

I miss the good old days when all you needed to know was how many MB you needed (yes MB lol)

I remember when Ageod went from 512 MB to 1 GB min; I asked the developer on the forum what changed and they said 'well we figured you couldn't buy a card lower than that now'

BSG Deadlock says 1GB NVIDIA Geforce 460/ATI Radeon HD 5770 or better

The older 460 blows away my 1GB GeForce GTX 650 while the Radeon doesn't. which in my mind means a 460 is not minimum. Anyway, Deadlock is running fine so far; have to see larger battles.

I would love to pick up a Battletech game but that says, GTX 560 ti minimum. Graphs comparisions are not close...

Just venting[:(]

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:44 pm
by PipFromSlitherine
There are often specific performance or compatibility issues with some cards, especially those which happen to come at the crux of new developments or versions of (e.g.) DirectX. Rather than risk people not being able to play the game often the specs err on the side of safety. As an example we tend to try and make our games run on anything, but that comes with the cost of people asking why their super-low-end video card can't run the game at 1080p. Sometimes the cost of lost players is less than trying to handle the tech support requests.

Cheers

Pip

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:16 pm
by Toby42
You upgrade to a better video card and find out your power supply is not big enough to run it?

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:34 am
by Lobster
Always stick in a bigger power supply than what you need. You never know.

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:30 am
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: Lobster

Always stick in a bigger power supply than what you need. You never know.
Yes. Power supplies tend to degrade over time.

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:29 am
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Lobster

Always stick in a bigger power supply than what you need. You never know.

Have a 1200 watt one myself. And an MSI RX480 8gig video card.

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:37 am
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: jack54

The recent tendency to list a specific graphic card for minimum requirement is making me nuts. Now I find myself going to 'hardware comparison' sites and then trying to decipher the various graphs. I can accept that my my 6 yr old computer will not play graphically intense games as upgrading the GPU is not an option for now. (I was looking at a Gtx 1050 3 GB upgrade for about $200).

I miss the good old days when all you needed to know was how many MB you needed (yes MB lol)

I remember when Ageod went from 512 MB to 1 GB min; I asked the developer on the forum what changed and they said 'well we figured you couldn't buy a card lower than that now'

BSG Deadlock says 1GB NVIDIA Geforce 460/ATI Radeon HD 5770 or better

The older 460 blows away my 1GB GeForce GTX 650 while the Radeon doesn't. which in my mind means a 460 is not minimum. Anyway, Deadlock is running fine so far; have to see larger battles.

I would love to pick up a Battletech game but that says, GTX 560 ti minimum. Graphs comparisions are not close...

Just venting[:(]

Try this: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ Just tried it to see if I can run the upcoming Mortal Kombat 11. (Yes I can)

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:11 pm
by Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: jack54

The older 460 blows away my 1GB GeForce GTX 650 while the Radeon doesn't. which in my mind means a 460 is not minimum. Anyway, Deadlock is running fine so far; have to see larger battles.

I would love to pick up a Battletech game but that says, GTX 560 ti minimum. Graphs comparisions are not close...

Just venting[:(]
On this machine I've got GTX 580. Runs all the games I have thrown at it including BattleTech, Doom (2016), and Project Cars 2 (2017). With that said, my preference is to play those games on my newest computer with Core i7-7700, GTX 1080 Ti, 16 GB of RAM, and SSD. That computer just happens to be in my brother's house where is a sizable room to move around with VR set. Reason for stated hardware requirements being what they are is because the games have been tested with that hardware and not the older ones.

In your case you could MAYBE get BattleTech to work with reduced resolution and visuals. You can look up used hardware, it cost less. If you still can't afford upgrade anytime soon, then it is better to save that money for the games that are more certain to work. Or save money for newer hardware and get games that cost nothing. To scratch BattleTech itch, I highly recommend MegaMek and MekHQ. You'll need at least Total Warfare rule book to play them though, and PDF version is available at least on DriveThruRPG for $14.99

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:51 pm
by Mobeer
Part of the problem is that users differ - 30 frames per second at low settings at 1080p might be acceptable to one person and useless to another. It's easier just to say that such a graphics card is unsupported than to face criticsm for "failing to optimise", which seems to be becoming more and more common a critique in reviews.

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:55 pm
by jack54
I'd like to thank everyone for the responses. A lot of good information.

Still thinking about a GTX 1050 not much more power usage compared to my current gpu but will probably wait; I can still run plenty of games.

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:29 am
by AndreyBailey
ORIGINAL: Aurelian

Have a 1200 watt one myself. And an MSI RX480 8gig video card.

Friend, you have MSI RX480 graphic card but I'm a little bit confused about graphics card hope you can help me out about it.
I want to know about which graphics card is best for gaming AMD Radeon or Nvidia Geforce?

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:31 am
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: AndreyBailey

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

Have a 1200 watt one myself. And an MSI RX480 8gig video card.

Friend, you have MSI RX480 graphic card but I'm a little bit confused about graphics card hope you can help me out about it.
I want to know about which graphics card is best for gaming AMD Radeon or Nvidia Geforce?

That isn't an east one to answer. Here is one take on it: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id- ... 0-8gb.html

And another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqfRkPeSNY

Keep in mind, I've owned it since 2016.

RE: Minimum System Requirments with specific Graphic cards

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:01 pm
by Kuokkanen
GeForce is more popular and likely better supported by games.