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Ohhhh this should be fun.

Yes, I'm actually expecting wargamer drama here I suppose.

I'm restricting this to digital. There's just way toooo many board games a lot of us might have never had to chance to see or even hear of.

In my opinion, I think I'm going to be fielding the opinion, that Advanced Tactics or The Operational Art of War deserves the crown of best overall, all in one package can provide a wargamer with more total all-encompassing, can simulate anything better than any other product satisfaction.

Yes, we have the greats out there, that are clearly incredible, but they are either massive undertakings of time, or they are setting specifically limited, of they are too tactical, or to strategy end of the spectrum.

I've always said, if you have TOAW, you own what we seem like most of the board games of the 70s and 80s in one box.

Advanced tactics is the best dramagame[:D] of the world because you can add what you want in your composition of division.

ARNHEM: THE 'MARKET GARDEN' OPERATION DOS - 1988

for me[;)]

The original Steel Panthers got the digital ball rolling for me. Before that it was all analog. Still have the disk. I should bronze it. Easy to play. Hard to master. Loads of replay time. And omg the drama. I still recall Veber going off about how an 88 can't possibly be an effective AT gun because it was an AA gun. For months! [:D]

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You need to take the best of the boardgames that you liked and put them into a computer game. What else good are computers other than to save space and take on some of the calculations/resolutions and dice rolling? But for some reason the good to great games of the past aren't so much getting this treatment, rather we are getting tons of flimsy/buggy/overthought games. Plenty can post here offering up compromises, but thirty years on and there is no game that can do it right. It's pathetic I tell you, and I'm fed up with it, and I'm prepared to do something about it ... join with me!

5th Fleet (PC/Avalon Hill)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhHzkL7rU9c

[;)]

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I'm on the march!

One of the Steel Panthers games. I leave arguing about SPWAW and WinSPWW2 to others.

V for Victory series [&o]

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Plenty can post here offering up compromises, but thirty years on and there is no game that can do it right. It's pathetic I tell you, and I'm fed up with it, and I'm prepared to do something about it ... join with me!

Ah you too you are designing your own computer wargame? [;)]

Impossible question to answer, but the reference to Advanced Tactics is probably mine. Check out the god of wargaming's progress on his new game: https://www.vrdesigns.net/. My only concern is that it does not appear to be using the combat system of AT or Decisive Campaigns.,, but it is Vic so you know it will be great.

You need to take the best of the boardgames that you liked and put them into a computer game. What else good are computers other than to save space and take on some of the calculations/resolutions and dice rolling? But for some reason the good to great games of the past aren't so much getting this treatment, rather we are getting tons of flimsy/buggy/overthought games. Plenty can post here offering up compromises, but thirty years on and there is no game that can do it right. It's pathetic I tell you, and I'm fed up with it

This +1000

Age of Rifles for 19th century

Campaign Series should be included for WW2 tactical. Can't go wrong with TOAW or SP for older games though.

For newer games Advanced Tactics, Flashpoint Campaigns or Field of Glory 2.

Mrs Wargamer; no drama here - just curiosity. What do you mean by the word best?

Tom

Steel Panthers WW2/MBT
TOAW

Steel Panthers