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Bill Brings Banzai
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:58 pm
by BillBrown
I have found a new game, hopefully it will go the distance.
As the title suggests, I will be playing Japan for the first time, this will be fun.
Scenario 2, no house rules, just a few turn one rules.
1. Allied TF that exist on turn one can change their orders, no new TFs can be created
2. Only ground and air units either in China or attached to China Command can be given orders on turn 1.
3. No deep penetrations by the Japanese( No Mersing turn 1, no Palambang, etc. )
So I am sure I will be looking for help, mostly in the production area. I do have tracker up and running
so that will help. But there are decisions I have not have to make concering ships construction and aircraft,
etc. I am sure I will drown in the details, but I will persevere.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:06 pm
by Nowi Ribak
Best of luck to you.
I will be reading & commenting, but of course have to little exp. to consult.
Enjoy [:)]
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:10 pm
by BBfanboy
Looking forward to the match, but who is your opponent?
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:19 pm
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Looking forward to the match, but who is your opponent?
"I'd bet on him, but who'd bet on you"?
Good luck!

RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:24 pm
by BillBrown
AllenK is my opponent, I do not think he is highly experienced in WitP AE, but I am not sure.
It looks like he is/was playing Warsprite1 in World in flames.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:36 pm
by Canoerebel
Bill, I'll be glad to lend a hand, sharing everything I know about playing from the Japanese seat.....

RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:52 pm
by BillBrown
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Bill, I'll be glad to lend a hand, sharing everything I know about playing from the Japanese seat.....
Let's see, my zero + your zero = Nada.
Thanks CR.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:33 pm
by BillBrown
A question to try and make sure I understand.
I have 2 Ki-43-Ia Oscar factories. They do not have an upgrade path so I would have to change them manually.
I have 1 Ki-43-Ic Oscar Factory. If I do nothing it will upgrade automatically to the Ki-43-IIa in 8/42.
I hope that is correct.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:10 pm
by Uncivil Engineer
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
A question to try and make sure I understand.
I have 2 Ki-43-Ia Oscar factories. They do not have an upgrade path so I would have to change them manually.
I have 1 Ki-43-Ic Oscar Factory. If I do nothing it will upgrade automatically to the Ki-43-IIa in 8/42.
I hope that is correct.
The stock game doesn't have Oscar Ia factories, so rely on tracker to tell you what the factories upgrade to. Stock starts with 1 squadron flying Ia, 1 flying Ib, and the rest flying Ic. The Ia and Ib can upgrade to Ic as soon as aircraft are available. I don't know what your mod has, but I would think you might want to produce Ia's for a month or so, changing one factory to Ic by the end of December '41 and the other by the end of January '42. If the IIa becomes available in Aug '42, then that's 3 months earlier than stock (which is Nov '42). Yes, it upgrades automatically.
Hope this helps.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:51 pm
by BillBrown
It sure looks like there are Ki-43-Ia factories in scenario 2.
Tracker says there is no upgrade path.

RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:57 pm
by BillBrown
And Tracker ( and the game ) says the Ki43-IIa is available in 8/42
I know you are trying to help, but you are giving out bad information
Actually I now see the problem. We are playing scenario 2 and your information
comes from Scenario 1

RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:41 pm
by jdsrae
I’ll just say good luck with the industry side of things [:D]
It took me about 6 months of playing with spreadsheets in the evening to get my head around it all for my latest Scenario 1 game vs AI.
My “summary” reference notes for next time run to about 50 pages!
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:03 pm
by Canoerebel
An Alternate Title for this AAR: Gents, Here are Many Reasons Not to Play as the Japanese Side
Good luck, Bill. I'll be reading and hoping you do well. I'd think that to play Japan, you'll have to learn a lot through analysis and help, so that your AAR might turn into a tutorial. Arg.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:42 pm
by BillBrown
I hope it does, there are still a lot of things I am very unsure about. I think my first answer got answered. I am sure I will have a lot more.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:56 pm
by jdsrae
In the factory screen you will see a toggle for “keep” or “upgrade”.
If set to “keep” the factory will stay producing the current aircraft. I think the default is set to keep, so if that’s true and you do nothing you won’t see it auto upgrade.
If it is set to upgrade it will auto upgrade to the next aircraft in the line (if there is one).
I don’t use tracker, but I refer to the database a lot to find out what upgrades to what.
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:44 pm
by Korvar
I'm glad you found an opponent, Bill. I was considering offering myself as an opponent, but I can't responsibly get into PBEM games until I get SeaBee sorted. Perhaps next time!
That said, I think I'll follow along here in an attempt to learn alongside you the mysteries of the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere industry system. [;)]
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:26 pm
by BillBrown
I most likely will give pointers on how not to do the Japanese industry. [:(]
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:52 pm
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
I most likely will give pointers on how not to do the Japanese industry. [:(]
Indeed, the mistakes are all there waiting to be made.

RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:52 pm
by Canoerebel
RE: Bill does Japan
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:08 am
by Uncivil Engineer
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
It sure looks like there are Ki-43-Ia factories in scenario 2.
Tracker says there is no upgrade path.
Sorry, I said stock, I meant Scenario 1. I've never looked at Scenario 2.
Anyway, I would change the 0(5) Ia factory to Ic and then expand it to 30.
Depending on how many squadrons you have flying Ia, expand the 5(0) factory to 20 or 30. You'll likely be flying them for a month or 2 until you'll have enough Ic's to upgrade the squadrons.
That's my 2 cents on Oscars.