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Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:05 pm
by Canoerebel
Over the past few days, I've stumbled across a couple of YouTube videos regarding beautiful actresses of the black-and-white film era. One ranked the top 20, the other the top 40. The Top 20 had Ingrid Bergman at something like 13, which I found utterly unbelievable. There may have been somebody more beautiful than she but there weren't a dozen. The Top 40 had her ranked 36th! What?

Both lists ranked Liz Taylor and Vivien Leigh as 1-2 and 2-1, respectively. I'm not a big fan of Taylor, but Leigh was a beauty. But I thought Mankind had universally agreed that Ingrid Bergman was the most beautiful creation ever.

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:12 pm
by MakeeLearn
Helen Ann Richardson Khan (born Helen Ann Richardson on 21 November 1938), popularly known as only Helen (Hindi pronunciation: [heːleːn]), is a Burma-born Indian film actress and dancer working in Hindi films. She has received two Filmfare awards, has appeared in over 700 films and is often cited as the most popular nautch dancer of her time.

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:20 pm
by geofflambert
Loretta Young, dudes.



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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:21 pm
by Yaab
Mamie van Doren to the top! Because she can't be... topless, right?

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:34 pm
by Canoerebel
The lists are interesting. First, we can all agree that being an actress implies a certain level of comeliness. These are lovely ladies. Second, tastes are subjective. Third, tastes change with time, as fashions change, appreciation for types of figures change, hair styles, etc.

Viewing the list, there were some I wasn't very familiar with that were undeniably gorgeous. Claudia Cardinale comes to mind. There were some great names that simply never moved me, including Marlena Dietrich, Gretta Garbo and Rita Hayworth. There were some that received deservedly high rankings, such as Grace Kelly, Audrey Hepburn, and Oliva DeHaviland. There were a few I was glad (and a bit surprised) to see listed, including Katherine Hepburn and Dorothy Lamour. But how did Ingrid Bergman fall to 36th? I'd think that any living male, age six to 106, who viewed Casablanca would be forever smitten.

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:45 pm
by geofflambert
Gina Lollobrigida.

Anne Bancroft killed me in The Graduate and other things.

Sophia Loren is number one on any list.

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:51 pm
by MakeeLearn
Lucy goes to Casablanca


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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:53 pm
by MakeeLearn
ORIGINAL: geofflambert



Sophia Loren is number one on any list.


YES.



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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:55 pm
by Yaab
Is young Alain Delon on the list? He was more feminine than those Weimar freaks Dietrich and Garbo.

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:57 pm
by Anachro
Lauren Bacall is probably my favorite of the golden era.

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:00 pm
by Canoerebel
Remember, these lists were B&W era (actually, they were pre-1960, so basically the same).

Gina Lolabrigida was on one or both lists, as were Lauren Bacall and Sophia Lauren (the latter highly ranked in both). I don't think I saw Ann Bancroft on either.

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:13 pm
by Leandros
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Over the past few days, I've stumbled across a couple of YouTube videos regarding beautiful actresses of the black-and-white film era. One ranked the top 20, the other the top 40. The Top 20 had Ingrid Bergman at something like 13, which I found utterly unbelievable. There may have been somebody more beautiful than she but there weren't a dozen. The Top 40 had her ranked 36th! What?

Both lists ranked Liz Taylor and Vivien Leigh as 1-2 and 2-1, respectively. I'm not a big fan of Taylor, but Leigh was a
beauty. But I thought Mankind had universally agreed that Ingrid Bergman was the most beautiful creation ever.
What part of mankind would that be...?

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:26 pm
by warspite1
Black and White era? Yes Vivien Leigh was exquisite. But then so were:

Olivia de Havilland and.....

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:27 pm
by warspite1
....Jean Simmons....

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:31 pm
by Yaab
ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn
ORIGINAL: geofflambert



Sophia Loren is number one on any list.


YES.



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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:34 pm
by Canoerebel
Olivia DeHaviland made both lists, highly ranked. I think Jean Simmons made one or both lists. :)

Some that didn't make it that arguably should have: Myrna Loy, Paulette Goddard, Margaret Lockwood.

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:41 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Olivia DeHaviland made both lists, highly ranked. I think Jean Simmons made one or both lists. :)
warspite1

Cool! [:)]

RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:45 pm
by warspite1
Of course Grace Kelly deserves more than a passing mention....

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:50 pm
by Yaab
Polish B-W era lasted until well into 1960s, probably due to color film shortage. Here is Polish actress Barbara Kwiatkowska, aka Barbara Lass.

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RE: Men Lacking Judgment

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:00 pm
by Canoerebel
Yup. Grace Kelly was prominently ranked in both lists - 10th or better, I think. You could make a case for her in the top 3. Probably there are at least ten that would make a suitable top three, if that makes sense.

Let's see: Grace Kelly, Ingrid Bergman, Audrey Hepburn, Olivia DeHaviland, Vivien Leigh, Sophia Lauren, Jean Simmons, Lauren Bacall, Claudia Cardinale, Kim Novak.

I think I'd work from the first four to come up with a list of the top three. :)