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The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:56 am
by Timotheus
is not the clicking, the godawful UI, my hand bleeding as I do a 4 hour 1st turn...
It is the SYNCH BUG.
This is inexcusable. This SHOULD be fixed.
When I watch a replay, it should not be fake news.
I am reading an AAR now, and the synch bug just reared its ugly head. It ruins the game, as a programmer (....not a master, a decent one) I cannot fathom HOW this could occur when all a replay is is basically a reading of a txt file.....right?
How can this synch bug be fixed?
Can I, as a player, do something to get rid of it 100% or at least lower the chance of it occuring?
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:07 am
by 821Bobo
AFAIK Japan player using esc key to skip combat animation is causing this.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:38 am
by Rising-Sun
You should take a break often.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:27 am
by HansBolter
Yea, add this to the list of reasons why I don't PBEM.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:31 am
by Canoerebel
Which is like saying, "I prefer my blow-up doll over dating Charlize Theron, because she sometimes is snappish."
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:38 am
by Yaab
PBEM sucks
AI is broken
Theron is old
Underrail Expedition is 07/22/2019[&o]
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:50 am
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Yaab
Theron is old
Aren't we all, aren't we all...
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:56 am
by Edward75
It is advisable not to play simultaneously with different players at one game-folder. They can have mods or beta patches installed.
Create for each opponent a new game in a different folder. With same patch or mod.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:01 am
by tarkalak
ORIGINAL: 821Bobo
AFAIK Japan player using esc key to skip combat animation is causing this.
Have you tested it?
I think (I am a programmer) that for some reason the Allied side is running the turn with a different random seed or the two sides use different versions (and mods, and etc.) of the game.
If the developers used a random number generator from the OS, that would cause different turns on different computers, but I doubt that this is the cause. They should have the pseudo random number generator shipped with the game.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:44 am
by Miller
Whatever the reason, it really should have been sorted out a decade ago when it was happening in UV and the original WITP, but I guess it's here forever. However, not a problem if you only play as the Japs.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:33 am
by Canoerebel
To minimize the effect of the sync bug, the Japanese player sends the written combat report to the Allied player, who reviews it first. That written report is always accurate.
The sync bug can be an intel boon to the Allied player, giving him a look at things that didn't happen/weren't visible in the real turn. This is usually tactical info, like an air battle that didn't happen real turn (because of weather) that takes place in the sync turn with results that "teach" the player something.
The bug can be eliminated by the proper sequencing of updates, which is covered at length in previous major posts somewhere around the Forum.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:38 am
by btd64
I personally haven't seen the sync bug more than 2 times in 8 years of pbem's. Just lucky I guess....GP
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:38 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Which is like saying, "I prefer my blow-up doll over dating Charlize Theron, because she sometimes is snappish."
Please put this tired, disgustingly denigrating reference to rest.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:40 am
by Canoerebel
No way. It's the best analogy I've ever come up with!
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:07 am
by MBF
Sorry to hear you obsess about inflatable dolls
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:09 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
No way. It's the best analogy I've ever come up with!
So you actually have no problem with implying that solitaire players prefer sex with blow up dolls?
Isn't that a violation of the forum rules?
I enjoy following your AARs too much to want to have to use the green button on you.
And surely you can come up with someone more enticing than Charlize...she is far to androgenous (sp?) for my taste.
And, furthermore, the correct period reference would be "like kissing your sister".
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:18 am
by Treetop64
ORIGINAL: 821Bobo
AFAIK Japan player using esc key to skip combat animation is causing this.
It's why I use the fast forward option when wanting to finish animations, even when playing allies.
Very handy.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:20 am
by Treetop64
why the hell is there a photobucket watermark all over my sig?
EDIT: ok, thats better.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:26 am
by Canoerebel
Somebody's taking banter far too seriously, but I'll drop the Charlize similes.
RE: The one thing that REALLY pisses me off in WITPAE
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:28 am
by Yaab
Perhaps there is this UNS Copyright submarine that prowls the web's waves and stalks those unwilling to pay? UNS as in United Nations Ship.