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New player looking for a game.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:40 pm
by tyronec
Experienced wargamer but new to this one, have played a few scenarios vs PO.
Would prefer WW2 and a scenario not too big or long, open to suggestions. Both sides reasonably balanced is good rather than one side chasing down objectives. Definitely one that uses the latest rule set.
PBEM or server.
Can probably do a move a day, most days.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:11 pm
by tigercub
in the same boat!Experienced wargamer but new to this one, have played a few scenarios vs PO. WW2 guy..i will look for something to play.
Tigercub
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:52 am
by Zovs
PBEM or PBEM++ is the best way to learn the game, not necessarily against the PO.
Are you two pairing up to play?
I can create a list of smallish scenarios that are good to play (may not be 100% balanced) if needed.
You used to be able to check the old Rugged Defense site but it's no more. The Blitz lists things for balance but I don't know if is been used over the last decade or not.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:25 am
by tyronec
A list would be helpful thanks.
The ones I was looking at were:
Kharkov
Crusader
France '40
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:48 am
by Zovs
This is just a cursory list, based a little on complexity, number of turns, and if I played it in the last 20 years and personal preferences. Not sure how balanced all of them are, but they are all pretty good.
WW I
1914-The Guns of August (20 turns)
Brusilov 1916 (13 turns)
Cambrai 1917 (17 turns)
Eastern Front 1915 (22 turns)
France 14 (14 turns)
Galipoli 1915 (14 turns)
Kaiserschlacht 1918 (mini) (15 turns)
Kaiserschlacht 1918 (15 turns)
Marne 1914 (12 turns)
Meuse-Argone 18 (14 turns)
Mons 1914 (11 turns)
Serbia-Galicia 1914 (11 turns)
St Mihiel 18 (6 turns)
The Battle of Mount Cer 1914 (13 turns)
WW II - Asia
Attu Island 43 (20 turns)
Burma 42-43 (30 turns)
Guadalcanal 1942 (24 turns)
Inkangahtawng 1944 (17 turns)
Iwo Jima 45 (10 turns)
Kiska Island 43 (20 turns)
Nomonhan 39 (23-60 turns)
Papua-New Guinea 1942 (20 turns)
Singapore 42 (16 turns)
WW II - East Front
2nd Battle of Kharkov 1942 (16 turns)
Festung Kolberg 1945 (30 turns)
Kharkov 42 (14 turns)
Korsun 44 (26 turns)
Kursk 43 (20 turns)
Operation Blau 1942 (32 turns)
Operation Typhoon 1941
Operation Zitadell 1943 (23 turns)
Petsamo-Kirkenes 1944 (24-30 turns)
Smolensk 41 (23 turns)
Stalingrad to Kharkov 1942-1943 (34 turns)
WW II - Mediterranean
Crusader 41 (17 turns)
El Alamein 1942 (27 turns)
Gothic Line 1944 (20 turns)
Road to Rimini 1944 (10 turns)
Tobruk 1941 (25 turns)
WW II - West Front
Cherbourg 44 (24 turns)
Cobra 44 (27 turns)
Dragoon 44 (28 turns)
Falaise Pocket 44 (19 turns)
France 1944 Cobra (20 turns)
France 1944 D-Day (34 turns)
France 40 (18 turns)
Market Garden 44 (20 turns)
Mortain 44 (15 turns)
Operation Nordwind 1945 (20 turns)
Operation Varsity 1945 (14 turns)
Remagen (22 turns)
St Lo 44 (21 turns)
Two Weeks in Normandy 1944 (13 turns)
Updated the list
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:31 pm
by larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: Zovs
This is just a cursory list, based a little on complexity, number of turns, and if I played it in the last 20 years and personal preferences. Not sure how balanced all of them are, but they are all pretty good.
East Front
2nd Battle of Kharkov 1942 (16 turns)
Festung Kolberg 1945 (30 turns)
Kharkov 42 (14 turns)
Korsun 44 (26 turns)
Kursk 43 (20 turns)
Operation Blau 1942 (32 turns)
Operation Typhoon 1941
Operation Zitadell 1943 (23 turns)
Petsamo-Kirkenes 1944 (24-30 turns)
Smolensk 41 (23 turns)
Stalingrad to Kharkov 1942-1943 (34 turns)
West Front
Cherbourg 44 (24 turns)
Cobra 44 (27 turns)
Dragoon 44 (28 turns)
Falaise Pocket 44 (19 turns)
France 1944 Cobra (20 turns)
France 1944 D-Day (34 turns)
France 40 (18 turns)
Market Garden 44 (20 turns)
Mortain 44 (15 turns)
Operation Nordwind 1945 (20 turns)
Operation Varsity 1945 (14 turns)
Remagen (22 turns)
St Lo 44 (21 turns)
Two Weeks in Normandy 1944 (13 turns)
Med
Crusader 41 (17 turns)
El Alamein 1942 (27 turns)
Gothic Line 1944 (20 turns)
Road to Rimini 1944 (10 turns)
Tobruk 1941 (25 turns)
Wow.....that's a wonderful list. Thanks for doing that. I now know where to go when I need a different scenario to play.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:35 pm
by Zovs
I created a challenge for PBEM++ for the Scenario El Alamein 1942 (smallish scenario 27 turns, with around 200 units a piece) I'll take the Axis and let whoever wants to have a go take the CW (the CW does the first turn and has the initiative), its mainly for fun and hopefully a learning experience for someone (myself most likely).
I put a password on it, so just ask me if interested.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:39 pm
by Zovs
Your welcome Larry, it's not exhaustive and it's mostly just the stock scenarios. A long time ago I think it was at the bliz where you could see the balance of scenarios, based on how submitted results. I was in that group for a while but it becomes to competitive and soon is not as fun when you "have" to play and keep up your score. In 'our' games Larry its fun and we each try to give each other the best we can but its not a chore.
The challenge is mean for either tyronec or tigercub, or no one in particular...
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:53 pm
by Hellen_slith
ORIGINAL: Zovs
This is just a cursory list, based a little on complexity, number of turns, and if I played it in the last 20 years and personal preferences. Not sure how balanced all of them are, but they are all pretty good.
East Front
2nd Battle of Kharkov 1942 (16 turns)
Festung Kolberg 1945 (30 turns)
Kharkov 42 (14 turns)
Korsun 44 (26 turns)
Kursk 43 (20 turns)
Operation Blau 1942 (32 turns)
Operation Typhoon 1941
Operation Zitadell 1943 (23 turns)
Petsamo-Kirkenes 1944 (24-30 turns)
Smolensk 41 (23 turns)
Stalingrad to Kharkov 1942-1943 (34 turns)
West Front
Cherbourg 44 (24 turns)
Cobra 44 (27 turns)
Dragoon 44 (28 turns)
Falaise Pocket 44 (19 turns)
France 1944 Cobra (20 turns)
France 1944 D-Day (34 turns)
France 40 (18 turns)
Market Garden 44 (20 turns)
Mortain 44 (15 turns)
Operation Nordwind 1945 (20 turns)
Operation Varsity 1945 (14 turns)
Remagen (22 turns)
St Lo 44 (21 turns)
Two Weeks in Normandy 1944 (13 turns)
Med
Crusader 41 (17 turns)
El Alamein 1942 (27 turns)
Gothic Line 1944 (20 turns)
Road to Rimini 1944 (10 turns)
Tobruk 1941 (25 turns)
This is a great list! Thank you!!!
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:46 pm
by Zovs
Updated the list, again it's just my thoughts.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:18 pm
by tigercub
Kharkov 42 looks good for me! both sides get some glory! got your email. pick a side!
Tigercub
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:35 pm
by larryfulkerson
ORIGINAL: tigercub
Kharkov 42 looks good for me! both sides get some glory! got your email. pick a side!
Tigercub
Are either one of you going to do an AAR? I'd encourage you to do that because it'll help you focus on the most important things and not get sidetracked on minutiae. Lots of pictures helps not only your readers but a lot of times it helps the player get a more accurate mental picture of what's going on, especially when I do those cut and paste monster images I produce. The enire front lines from north to south doesn't reveal the entire effort but does hint at the potential hot spots. Detailed images are good for offline terrain studies.
Also, an AAR will give us the ability to supply you guys with hints, and or suggestions for a better way, etc. I'd personally love to keep up with your game. Please.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:45 am
by tyronec
Kharkov 42 looks good for me! both sides get some glory! got your email. pick a side!
Set up on server, password is soso.
RE: New player looking for a game.
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:43 am
by tigercub
done!