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Okay here is a list of stock scenario's that may be good for new or experienced players wanting a smaller turn count and less then 300 units per side (many of these are under 200 and a lot are 100 and under).

This list is based on my idea, experience (over the last 20 years or so) and interpretation of complexity based on a combination of what the game reports as complexity, plus a generally smaller map size and lower count of units and the number of turns being under 40 (most are 15 to 30 turns).

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Forgotten Battles - Cracow 1914 (16-20 turns)
Forgotten Battles - Komarow 1914 (10-12 turns)
Forgotten Battles - Lodz 1914 (18-25 turns)
Frozen Steppes 1942-1943 (32-38 turns)
Nijmegen 1944 (14 turns)

Hypothetical Studies
Anonymous Heroics (11 turns)

Modern - Asia
Bong Son 66 (13 turns)
Chosin 50 (15 turns)
Dien Bien Phu 54 (14 turns)
Ia Drang 65 (13 turns)
Korea 99 (32 turns)
Russo-China 2000 (20 turns)
Taipei 2015 (13 turns)
Vietnam Invasion 69 (25 turns)

Modern - Middle East
Chinese Farm 1973 (25 turns)
Iran-Iraw 84 (9 turns)
Israel 48 (31 turns)
Lebanon 1982 (11-16 turns)
Libya-Egypt 2000 (25 turns)
Middle East 56 (32-50 turns)
Next War in Jerusalem 2005 (30 turns)
Sinai 1967 (14 turns)
Six days of War 1967 (12 turns)
West Bank 1967 (10 turns)

Modern - Misc
Aegean 2008 (18 turns)
Cyprus 1974 (19 turns)
Falklands War 1982 (16 turns)
Grenada 83 (12 turns)
Hungary-Romania 2000 (30 turns)
Walvis Bay 1991 (28 turns)

Modern - NATO vs Warsaw Pact
Fulda 76 (18 turns)
Germany - BAOR 1990 (28 turns)
Germany - Northern Germany (28 turns)
Germany - Southern Germany 1990 (28 turns)
Highway to Helsinki 1990 (23 turns)
Karelian Pine 1990 (15 turns)

Pre WW I
Antietam 1862 (12 turns)
Balkans 12 (14 turns)
Balkans 13 (11 turns)
Killer Angels 1863 (Jackson Variant) (30 turns)
Killer Angels 1863 (30 turns)
La Grand Armee 1805 (
Leipzig 1813 (15 turns)
Shiloh 1862 (any of the three) (36 turns)
Waterloo 1815 (10 turns)

Tutorials
Kasserine 43 (12 turns)
Tanneberg 14 (13 turns)

WW I
1914-The Guns of August (20 turns)
Brusilov 1916 (13 turns)
Cambrai 1917 (17 turns)
Eastern Front 1915 (22 turns)
France 14 (14 turns)
Galipoli 1915 (14 turns)
Kaiserschlacht 1918 (mini) (15 turns)
Kaiserschlacht 1918 (15 turns)
Marne 1914 (12 turns)
Meuse-Argone 18 (14 turns)
Mons 1914 (11 turns)
Serbia-Galicia 1914 (11 turns)
St Mihiel 18 (6 turns)
The Battle of Mount Cer 1914 (13 turns)

WW II - Asia
Attu Island 43 (20 turns)
Burma 42-43 (30 turns)
Guadalcanal 1942 (24 turns)
Inkangahtawng 1944 (17 turns)
Iwo Jima 45 (10 turns)
Kiska Island 43 (20 turns)
Nomonhan 39 (23-60 turns)
Papua-New Guinea 1942 (20 turns)
Singapore 42 (16 turns)

WW II - East Front
2nd Battle of Kharkov 1942 (16 turns)
Festung Kolberg 1945 (30 turns)
Kharkov 42 (14 turns)
Korsun 44 (26 turns)
Kursk 43 (20 turns)
Operation Blau 1942 (32 turns)
Operation Typhoon 1941
Operation Zitadell 1943 (23 turns)
Petsamo-Kirkenes 1944 (24-30 turns)
Smolensk 41 (23 turns)
Stalingrad to Kharkov 1942-1943 (34 turns)

WW II - Mediterranean
Crusader 41 (17 turns)
El Alamein 1942 (27 turns)
Gothic Line 1944 (20 turns)
Road to Rimini 1944 (10 turns)
Tobruk 1941 (25 turns)

WW II - Misc
Fall Grun 1938 (20 turns)


WW II - West Front
Cherbourg 44 (24 turns)
Cobra 44 (27 turns)
Dragoon 44 (28 turns)
Falaise Pocket 44 (19 turns)
France 1944 Cobra (20 turns)
France 1944 D-Day (34 turns)
France 40 (18 turns)
Market Garden 44 (20 turns)
Mortain 44 (15 turns)
Operation Nordwind 1945 (20 turns)
Operation Varsity 1945 (14 turns)
Remagen (22 turns)
St Lo 44 (21 turns)
Two Weeks in Normandy 1944 (13 turns)

Just my thoughts and hope it helps somewhat.

This is a great list!!! Thank you so much!!!!

Scenario complexity list:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4538346

The sweet just keeps growing!!

I have never really understood what "scenario complexity" involves ...

if you would, please explain like we're five, what means (in a nutshell) "scenario complexity"?

Thanks tons!!!

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

The sweet just keeps growing!!

I have never really understood what "scenario complexity" involves ...

if you would, please explain like we're five, what means (in a nutshell) "scenario complexity"?

Thanks tons!!!

See post #6 in the above thread.

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

The sweet just keeps growing!!

I have never really understood what "scenario complexity" involves ...

if you would, please explain like we're five, what means (in a nutshell) "scenario complexity"?

Thanks tons!!!

See post #6 in the above thread.

Thank you!! For the curious, I quote:

"Complexity is calculated from a scaled product of the Total Units, Total Turns, Total Events, and Total Map Boundaries."

IOW: Algebra, my sworn enemy

"Complexity is calculated from a scaled product of the Total Units, Total Turns, Total Events, and Total Map Boundaries."

Just out of curiosity,
whats the scale?

Good list

ORIGINAL: mdanz



"Complexity is calculated from a scaled product of the Total Units, Total Turns, Total Events, and Total Map Boundaries."

Just out of curiosity,
whats the scale?

What difference does it make? They're relative values.

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

ORIGINAL: Hellen_slith

The sweet just keeps growing!!

I have never really understood what "scenario complexity" involves ...

if you would, please explain like we're five, what means (in a nutshell) "scenario complexity"?

Thanks tons!!!

See post #6 in the above thread.

Thank you!! For the curious, I quote:

"Complexity is calculated from a scaled product of the Total Units, Total Turns, Total Events, and Total Map Boundaries."

IOW: Algebra, my sworn enemy

Total Units, Total Turns, Total Events, and Total Map Boundaries

By scaled I expect he means that multiplying four unrelated numbers together yields a fifth number that can be anywhere on a scale from 0.01 to something over 20M. Depending on where the number falls on the scale, it’s supposed to provide information about the scenario that potential players can use as a filter. Scaled might also mean that the four numbers have been multiplied by factors in an attempt to give them equal weighting. That would explain why complexity values are carried out to two decimal places.

As an example of why this system doesn’t work, take a complexity value of 5000. What does it tell you about the number of units, or total turns, or events or the map boundaries? Tells me nothing and I suspect that this also true with you.

I’ve petitioned for a system that provides a meaningful number, but the TOAW crew (mostly Ralph I’ve been told) has resisted the change.

Regards, RhinoBones

oh.

ORIGINAL: rhinobones

By scaled I expect he means that multiplying four unrelated numbers...

They are all related to the size of the scenario.

Really helpful, saves a lot of loading up the scenario to have a look at it.