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[FIXED B1115.8] v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:44 am
by kylania
After the manual 1115.7 patch applied to Steam (still hasn't loaded via Steam for me) strike missions finally respect transit/station speeds and altitudes but only after you toggle the 'Terrain Following' checkbox on the manual Throttle & Altitude panel. Example would be the Recon mission for Strike Tutorial 3: Complex Strike. If you load the save and let it run you'll see the Su-24MR Fencer E runs at 480kts at 12,000 ft. As it approaches the first RP of it's mission it'll engage Afterburners and speed up to 680kts as expected, however it'll stay at 12,000 ft. If you reload the save and as soon as it starts to speed up you uncheck the Terrain Following checkbox under the Throttle & Altitude panel it'll recheck the box itself and the unit will start it's expected dive down to 500 ft AGL.

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:51 am
by Dimitris
Thank you, this is useful! We'll take a look.

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:48 pm
by mavfin
ORIGINAL: Dimitris

Thank you, this is useful! We'll take a look.
A note: Strike missions are doing all kinds of wonky things...but if you set up a ASuW or SEAD patrol in range of the targets, and you don't need to pick out specific targets...it works wonderfully. Just set an attack height to match the weapons' release limits, and you're golden. So, the code knows what to do...but the strike mission code isn't connecting with it or something.

It's just the strike missions that don't give you any choice of altitudes or anything of that sort that go all wonky sometimes, still. However, it has to be a strike mission to pick out specific targets...

I had three strike mission groups last night, in two different scenarios, with a specific target (a SAM site in each case), and in each case, it ended up attacking one at about 1000 feet AGL, and the other group member at 36000 feet. Pic attached from Tacview. Pretty weird.





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RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:12 pm
by Asparagin
Confirm this behavior. I thought first it´s the strike tutorial missions, but apparently mavfin has also seen it elsewhere.

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:20 pm
by mavfin
ORIGINAL: Asparagin

Confirm this behavior. I thought first it´s the strike tutorial missions, but apparently mavfin has also seen it elsewhere.
The one in the pic was the original Basic Air Operations, 1983 tutorial from CMANO. Works just fine in CMANO, but if you run it in CMO I can get the above result in DB3000 478 (last CMANO DB) or in 480, highest current CMO DB.

I can confirm it in other strike mission scenarios, though. I used this because I know what to expect to see, etc. Great for testing.


RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:16 am
by Dimitris
All,

We have prepared a new test build (B1115.7.1) which _should_ resolve remaining waypoint altitude-related issues (incl. terrain following). See attachment. To use just unzip to your installation folder (overwrite existing Command.exe).

Please give it a go and let us know. Thanks!

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:38 am
by boogabooga
Much better!

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:12 am
by kylania
Mission worked as expected with the 1115.7.1 build!

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:54 am
by Asparagin
Can confirm that in a patrol mission transit and station altitude was adjusted as planed.

Best regards,
A

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:29 am
by mavfin
ORIGINAL: Dimitris

All,

We have prepared a new test build (B1115.7.1) which _should_ resolve remaining waypoint altitude-related issues (incl. terrain following). See attachment. To use just unzip to your installation folder (overwrite existing Command.exe).

Please give it a go and let us know. Thanks!
Will check it out after work. Thanks!

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:59 pm
by Tiramisu
B1115.7.1 is really good, although I am experiencing a new bug that makes all units vanish from the map, once I have reloaded a save file. I have to restart CMO in order to open save files properly again.

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:02 pm
by duelok11
ORIGINAL: Dimitris

All,

We have prepared a new test build (B1115.7.1) which _should_ resolve remaining waypoint altitude-related issues (incl. terrain following). See attachment. To use just unzip to your installation folder (overwrite existing Command.exe).

Please give it a go and let us know. Thanks!

It now works perfectly!

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:06 pm
by Dimitris
ORIGINAL: Tiramisu
B1115.7.1 is really good, although I am experiencing a new bug that makes all units vanish from the map, once I have reloaded a save file. I have to restart CMO in order to open save files properly again.

Can you please elaborate on this, and if possible provide a detailed step-by-step for reproducing it? Preferably on a new thread? Thanks!

RE: v1115.7 Terrain Following issue

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:11 pm
by Tiramisu
ORIGINAL: Dimitris

Can you please elaborate on this, and if possible provide a detailed step-by-step for reproducing it? Preferably on a new thread? Thanks!

I was not able to reproduce it, but I will try to keep the save file for the next time to report it, once this bug happens again.