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Hi Everybody,

I have an issue with the Squadron 810 based on the CV Illustrious : the Swordfish do not upgrade to Albacore. I have enought plane in the pool and I have tested several situation :

- planes based on the CV (disbanded, docked, not docked, at sea...)
- planes based on ground (Colombo & Darwin, Airfield level of 7 minimum with more than 100k of supplies)
- I rezided the group several times too

I do not understand why the planes are not upgrading [:(]

Thank you for your help

I don't have the game running at the moment but I think the Albacore isn't CV capable. Is the squadron on the ship or the ground? Wasn't clear in your post....GP

Albacore is CV capable

ORIGINAL: 821Bobo

Albacore is CV capable

Thank you....GP

Another thought. Are there any in the pool?....GP

From the screenshot it looks like there should be no issue. Click on Albacore I and then "No upgrade possible" should turn to "Upgrade...".

Try putting the squadron on the base. Then try to upgrade....GP

Not all squadrons have the same upgrade paths.

Have you examined the squadron's upgrade path?
A screenshot of it would be extremely helpful, but may make further comment moot.

The Albacore is only available in limited numbers.

I ran the pool dry by converting too many squadrons to them.

good point Hans....GP

If PDU is on and the upgrade path is not to Albacores, you may be able to change that path with a PP expenditure, but beware upgrading too many squadrons to this air frame as the pool is limited.

Your screenshot shows that your upgrade is still set to Swordfish. You should select Albacores from the list until you see "Upgrade - Albacore I (52)" in the airgroup window

Yup, the upgrade path is from the current airframe "Swordfish I" to upgrade to "Swordfish I", then to "Albacore I" and finally to "Barracuda II".

As you have 0 "Swordfish I" in the pool the first step of the upgrade wont happen.

However IIRC there is a code AI is using (but works for human player too) that can SKIP upgrade steps - if unit is left on with "Upgrade" option ON and some planes in the future upgrade step ("Albacore I") the squadron should go to "Albacore I" skipping the first or even several upgrade steps. This code is triggered during turn execution (replay - "Message upgrading Air units" or something). Conditions should be - Ship disbanded in port, enough supplies and/or in range of Air HQ with enough supplies, "Upgrade" ON. E.G. This way a unit that arrive in 1945 with P-40B Warhawks could upgrade directly to P-51H Mustangs within one upgrade instead of going up the ladder to P-40E, P-40K, P-51A and P-51D. Or on the other side of the "pool" the kamikaze unit arriving with Ki-27 Nate can jump directly to Ki-84r Frank through several Ki-43 Oscar models and Ki-84a Frank.


If you want to do the change manually during the player order phase - on the second screen (where the airframes are available) you should manually select "Albacore I" and return to unit screen. Then the "Upgrade" button should display "Upgrade - Albacore I" and there should be "Upgrade Now" available.

The AI doesn't skip models.  There is no "code trick" to do so.
 
This very same unit and issue has been previously addressed in the correct forum which is the main AE forum, not the tech sub forum.  The best thread is:
 
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3532136&mpage=1&key=upgrade&#3532964
 
Pay attention to witpqs and my posts in that thread.
 
Alfred

Thank you for your help guys

I have my answer now: because the PDU is set to "off" I cannot upgrade the planes. I'm stuck with the Swordfish forever

When you are playing against the AI you can switch on/off PDU as often you like.[;)]

Never noticed that a scree shot was 'attached'.

If images aren't embedded in the post I tend to never notice them.

ORIGINAL: Kursk1943

When you are playing against the AI you can switch on/off PDU as often you like.[;)]

Unfortunatly I'm playing in a PBEM game [:(]

ORIGINAL: Garfield

Thank you for your help guys

I have my answer now: because the PDU is set to "off" I cannot upgrade the planes. I'm stuck with the Swordfish forever

Screenshot you posted shows future upgrades(Albacore I, Barracuda II) so you should be able to change the model even with pdu off. Barb posted nice step by step guide.

ORIGINAL: Garfield

Thank you for your help guys

I have my answer now: because the PDU is set to "off" I cannot upgrade the planes. I'm stuck with the Swordfish forever

I am not sure that is true. Your attachment screenshot shows the upgrade as SwordfishI is selected. Have you tried selecting Albacore? If you have the squadron is set to "Upgrade allowed" and it allows you to change to Albacore, that is a valid upgrade path with the PDU OFF setting and you should be able to set that upgrade. As was mentioned, it may cost PP. If the game does not let you change the upgrade to Albacore, you are indeed stuck with Swordfish.

Once the upgrade to Albacore is accepted by the computer, getting the upgrade to happen is a matter of supply and time. If the carrier is at a large enough base with good supply, there can still be a time lag of days for the aircraft to arrive. During this time "Upgrade now" will be greyed out but at some point the upgrade will happen automatically, or the "Upgrade now" text will turn yellow, indicating the aircraft have made their way from the pools to the base. You can then select "Upgrade now" and get your Albacores.

I had this issue at Colombo and other large bases with lots of supply, and a Command HQ present. The time lag for transferring aircraft from the pools seems to be the only explanation for why it does not happen right away.

I cannot select Albacore or doing anything else. If click on Albacore, the screen of the plane with the technical information is displayed but I cannot select anaything