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IJN ASW
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:11 pm
by rockmedic109
Damn but they got good in 1944. I am playing Dababes. I've lost a total of 13 boats by Mar 1944 with 4 of them coming in less than the last three months. And even more subs are coming back damaged/crippled.
I cannot complain about the number of losses. U.S.N. lost 52 in the war and I am on track to loose less. But the sharp increase is a little unnerving.
While playing out a turn, I start cursing the senator or representative that told the press that the IJN was setting their DC depths too shallow.
I begin thinking about proper punishment for said individual. Ranging from options involving a firing squad, a rope or a large truck to stashing him on a sub and forcing him to make war patrols till the end of the war!
Further proof of how good this game is, not that we needed more proof.....
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:25 pm
by RangerJoe
Congressman Andrew May is credited
with sinking ten U.S. submarines.
Congressman Credited with Sinking up to Ten Submarines
http://www.ww2pacific.com/congmay.html
The democratic congressman who cost the lives of 800 Sailors, 38 G.I.'s,& 10 Submarines in WW2
Andrew Jackson May (1875-1959)
May was responsible for a major release of highly confidential military information during World War II known as the May Incident. U.S. submarines had been conducting a successful undersea war against Japanese shipping during World War II, frequently escaping their anti-submarine depth charge attacks. May revealed the deficiencies of Japanese depth-charge tactics in a press conference held in June 1943 on his return from a war zone junket.
At this press conference, he revealed the highly sensitive fact that American submarines had a high survival rate because Japanese depth charges were exploding at too shallow a depth. Various press associations sent this leaked news story over their wires and many newspapers published it, including one in Honolulu, Hawaii.
After the news became public, Japanese naval antisubmarine forces began adjusting their depth charges to explode at a greater depth. Vice Admiral Charles A. Lockwood, commander of the U.S. submarine fleet in the Pacific, estimated that May's security breach cost the United States Navy as many as ten submarines and 800 crewmen killed in action. He said, "I hear Congressman May said the Jap depth charges are not set deep enough. He would be pleased to know that the Japs set them deeper now."
He was also Partner with Murray Garsson in a Munitions business who faulty 4.2 inch heavy Mortar fuses killed 38 G.I.'s
SOURCES-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_J. ... y_Incident
Even after being responsible for 838 Dead Americans he was fully pardoned by Harry Truman because he still had power in the Democratic party
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/a ... 04,00.html
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/a ... 01,00.html
https://www.discussionist.com/10151991125
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:11 pm
by Elessar2
ORIGINAL: rockmedic109
While playing out a turn, I start cursing the senator or representative that told the press that the IJN was setting their DC depths too shallow.
I begin thinking about proper punishment for said individual. Ranging from options involving a firing squad, a rope or a large truck to stashing him on a sub and forcing him to make war patrols till the end of the war!
I'd fire him out of the nearest torpedo tube, myself...
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:41 pm
by Lovejoy
Robert McCormick, the owner of the Chicago Tribune, did a similar thing. He actually published an article that indicated that the US Navy had broke Japanese naval codes. No one ended up in jail over it, but the criminal investigation into the Tribune did generate even more unwanted publicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_ ... e_incident
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:07 pm
by spence
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:56 am
by LeeChard
Freedom of the press can sometimes mean freedom to be stupid.
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:08 pm
by rustysi
Yeah, and as the saying goes. 'You can't fix stupid.'[:@]
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:38 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: rustysi
Yeah, and as the saying goes. 'You can't fix stupid.'[:@]
Sure you can, I will see about getting my tom kitten fixed. [X(]
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:22 am
by Zorch
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: rustysi
Yeah, and as the saying goes. 'You can't fix stupid.'[:@]
Sure you can, I will see about getting my tom kitten fixed. [X(]
You might be starting from the wrong end there.
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:07 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Zorch
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: rustysi
Yeah, and as the saying goes. 'You can't fix stupid.'[:@]
Sure you can, I will see about getting my tom kitten fixed. [X(]
You might be starting from the wrong end there.
For some creatures, that end controls the other end . . .
RE: IJN ASW
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:08 pm
by rustysi
[:D]