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[Logged] Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:55 am
by Aarnoman
CMO version: v1.01 Build 1121.6
Tacview version 1.8.2
Scenario: Occurs in any scenario.

Issue & Steps to reproduce:
1) Start Scenario(in this eample, we will be using "Unkle Mark's Tutorial 3 - Yorktown in the Gulf of Sidra"
2) Open 3d view
3) Advance mission until 0500Z
4) Click between detected contacts in the CMO map. Note that the most recently detected contacts will not have a visible representation in the 3d view. The camera will also fail to jump to the location in the 3d view when that particular contact is clicked on in the CMO map.
5) If the 3d view window is closed and reopened, this contacts appear correctly as visible 3d models.

At this stage from my testing it appears to be the result of any units spawned through code not being recognised by tacview.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:43 am
by lookas231
I have the same problem. I hope the developer has checked this problem.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:28 am
by Varancar
Ditto. I have to keep relaunching Tacview, move it to my 2nd monitor and resize =(

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:33 pm
by Japo32
Same.. and I think Tacview is the culprit of crashes of CMO with big number of units (Invasion first mission with desert storm campaign)

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:56 am
by TheCabal
Same here.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:52 am
by Rory Noonan
Logged for investigation. #0013597

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:54 am
by Dimitris
Testing this now.

It appears that, if more than one contacts are present, the very latest-detected contact is not displayed on the Tacview window, whereas all other previous contacts are shown and selectable.

Can anyone check if this behavior is also true for him?

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:28 pm
by BugReport
Same here, also, newly spawned missiles sometimes were not 'refreshed' to the Tacview window too. It seems to happen more often in big scenarios.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:02 am
by Dimitris
ORIGINAL: BugReport
Same here, also, newly spawned missiles sometimes were not 'refreshed' to the Tacview window too. It seems to happen more often in big scenarios.

Does the "same here" refer to the original report, or my own observation? Please be precise.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:11 am
by cristianwj
ORIGINAL: Dimitris
ORIGINAL: BugReport
Same here, also, newly spawned missiles sometimes were not 'refreshed' to the Tacview window too. It seems to happen more often in big scenarios.

Does the "same here" refer to the original report, or my own observation? Please be precise.

It also happened to me, launched missiles contacts can not track in tacview.
By the way, I found Tacview window run very slow in my game recently, if I zoom in/out and rotate camera with my left mouse button, it was very hard, but it's very smooth several days ago,is it caused by new updates?

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:14 am
by Dimitris
ORIGINAL: cristianwj
By the way, I found Tacview window run very slow in my game recently, if I zoom in/out and rotate camera with my left mouse button, it was very hard, but it's very smooth several days ago,is it caused by new updates?

Tacview is a separate product, made by a separate development team and company. If it's running slow on you, you need to talk with them: https://www.tacview.net/

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:23 am
by Dimitris
If you use God's Eye view, do all new-generated units appear as expected? Even in a large scenario?

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:23 am
by Aarnoman
No, even in god mode some contacts (again, I think ones that were not placed at the start of the mission) are not shown in tacview. Here are two contacts that do not appear in god mode in the same scenario as used earlier in this bug thread, using the same steps: [image in discord as I cannot link/attach images due to forum permission]

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:26 am
by Aarnoman
Fixed internally now according to Dimitris :)

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:31 am
by Dimitris
Fixed for the next update release.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:55 am
by TheCabal
The issue still persists and seems not fixed. Have to close 3D view and open it up again for new contacts to appear. =(
Everything is up to date here.

Despite this, enemy ground forces are either not showing up as well or are too tiny.. almost invisible. Maybe (optionally for users) increasing the size of the 3D-models could help.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:59 am
by Dimitris
ORIGINAL: TheCabal
The issue still persists and seems not fixed. Have to close 3D view and open it up again for new contacts to appear. =(
Everything is up to date here.

Despite this, enemy ground forces are either not showing up as well or are too tiny.. almost invisible. Maybe (optionally for users) increasing the size of the 3D-models could help.

Can we please have some actually helpful information? Saved game? Instructions to reproduce? ?

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:22 am
by TheCabal
Well it's pretty easy:

- Start Shifting Sand - 2nd scenario
- Wait till the first unknown air contacts appear (can take quite some time
- Compare unknown contacts, identified enemy contacts, missiles etc. with 3D view (they are missing as do unknown/enemy ground forces)

3D view gets not updated once a target appears, is being identified, missiles being fired. Must i rebuilt the scenarios to a newer database?! I'm so confused.

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:55 pm
by TheCabal
#BUMP#

Verified files in Steam for CMO and TacView. Both are ok and updated as always.

Still need to reopen 3D view after every new contact to get it shown in the 3D view. It happens in every scenario (recently, Shifting Sands campaign) whenever new contacts etc. are visible in CMO -> they are invisible in the 3D view until I close and then reopen 3D view.

- If contact XY1 appears in CMO, it doesn't show in 3D view.
- Close 3D View
- Open 3D View
- Contact XY1 is visible in 3D view and stays visible.
- If new contacts appear in CMO, they aren't visible in 3D view
- Repeat...

Despite this, identified enemy ground units (example: Artillery) appear blue instead of red as hostile. (These too appear in 3D view after closing and reopening 3D view).

RE: Tacview newly discovered contacts not appearing

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:50 am
by Rory Noonan
New ticket opened here as this thread has been inactive for 3+ months. In the future can you please avoid reporting issues on old threads that have been marked as resolved. Feel free to link to them if necessary, but a new thread is the best way to ensure your issue is not missed.