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Pre USSR-Japan pact trade agreement.

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:46 pm
by peskpesk
MWIF optional house rules:

Pre USSR-Japan pact trade agreement.

Description:
Until a USSR- Japanese pact is sign the following rules are imposed
• Japan must trade two none oil resources to USSR
• USSR must trade Japan one oil resource and one none oil resource
• If the optimal Siberians rule is in play, reduce the number of resources that Japan must trade by one for each Siberian unit that leaves the Asian map.
• If Zhukov leaves the Asian map reduce the number of resources that Japan must trade by one.
• If Japan has fewer than 5 points of garrison rating in Manchuria/Korea reduce the number of none oil resources that USSR must trade by one.
• If Terauchi leaves Manchuria/Korea reduce the number of oil resources that USSR must trade by one.

The pre pact trade agreement rules are cancelled if one of the following apply
• Japan is at war with USA
• Japan is at war with the USSR
• USSR - Japanese pact is signed
• USSR is at war with Germany



Reason:
Many Japanese players refrain from garrisoning Manchuria and instead bring the troops into china and tipping the balance there heavy in Japanese favour.
Also, Many USSR players do the same in Siberia, relocating the troops to other locations.
Its possible, but highly unhistorical.
These options keeps the players honest and give them trouble if they try to remove too many units from the area.

Historical Note:
The Japanese command conflict was mostly about which choice of strategy Japan should choose for the future. Hokushin-ron ,"Northern Expansion Doctrine" which stated that Manchuria and Siberia were Japan's sphere of interest and that the potential value to Japan for economic and territorial expansion. It was widely support within the Imperial Japanese Army
Nanshin-ron, "Southern Expansion Doctrine" , which regarded Southeast Asia and the Pacific Islands as Japan's political and economic sphere It was widely support within the Imperial Japanese Navy
The Army lost, due to its failures in Soviet–Japanese border conflict and in the ongoing Second Sino-Japanese War. Japan made the shift towards Nanshin-ron.
Due to the recent Soviet–Japanese border conflict both sides was weary about the other, for the world it came as chocking news that Japan and the USSR signed the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact in April 1941, the treaty would allow both Japan and the Soviet Union to avoid risk of fighting on multiple fronts
and freeing Japan for preparations for the Pacific War. This had a direct bearing on the Battle of Moscow, where the absence of a high Japanese threat enabled the Soviets to move large forces from Siberia and throw them into the fighting against the Germans.

RE: Pre USSR-Japan pact trade agreement.

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:24 pm
by warspite1
Thanks for your work on these - I particularly like the Chinese suggestion.

But re USSR-Japan, what is really needed is for RAW to be coded. Come on Steve please? Why did Kamikazes get priority over this?

RE: Pre USSR-Japan pact trade agreement.

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:24 pm
by Centuur
I would suggest to change this so that Japan needs to send a build point to the USSR in exchange for two Soviet oil points.

If Terauchi or 5 garrison points are not in Manchuria/Korea, reduce the oil points send by 1 each.

If Zhukov and all Siberians are not within garrison range of the Manchurian - Korean border, the Japanese will not send the build point.

Oil is very important to the Japanese and the build point is very important to the Soviets (far more if you compare this to two resources, in fact).

Also, I would suggest to add that the Japanese garrison points should be made up by land units only.

Finally: isn't it a good idea that if the Japanese capture any Chinese communist held factory city, the number of oil points get reduced by one too?