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What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:04 am
by Ian R
Not the Yavuz, the aircraft carrier.

RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:29 am
by mrchuck
Please can I answer!

Says right on the pic. SMS Goeben which was donated by the Kaiser to Turkey in 1914. This was instrumental in bringing Turkey into WW1 on the German side.
The British had just seized a battleship they were building on behalf of Turkey so the gift went a long way to negate a decade of patient diplomacy by the Foreign Office.
An example of tactical expediency leading to strategic misfortune, if one were ever needed
She was the last operational dreadnought type until scrapped in the 70s.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:50 am
by JeffroK
Bearcats with an L tail code.
CV-15 Randolph, repatriated US troops from the Med, 2 trips before end of 1945.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:51 am
by GetAssista
What are the DDs in the background though?
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:52 am
by Ian R
ORIGINAL: JeffroK
Bearcats with an L tail code.
CV-15 Randolph, repatriated US troops from the Med, 2 trips before end of 1945.
I agree, the L code was CAG-7 IIRC, and this fits with the Randolph's movements recorded in DANFS, must be it.
Not sure about the DDs, but a reasonable estimate would be the Italian built DDs acquired by Turkey in the 1930s.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:26 am
by Q-Ball
Wow, quick identification! It's hard to fool this group
I love this game...can anyone guess this ship?

RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:57 am
by Ian R
The retired HMS Centurion fitted with dummy turrets etc to masquerade as the HMS Anson?
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:39 pm
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Ian R
The retired HMS Centurion fitted with dummy turrets etc to masquerade as the HMS Anson?
Nope....I intentionally picked a very difficult ship. If this group can get it, not sure I can come up with something harder!!!
It's harder because you can't see all the turrets and guns due to the coverings
I will at least give a timeframe; that photo was taken in 1945
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:57 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Ian R
The retired HMS Centurion fitted with dummy turrets etc to masquerade as the HMS Anson?
Nope....I intentionally picked a very difficult ship. If this group can get it, not sure I can come up with something harder!!!
It's harder because you can't see all the turrets and guns due to the coverings
I will at least give a timeframe; that photo was taken in 1945
That forward rangefinder appears to be in a sub-optimal position - s/b higher up for more visibility.
I think it is a Russian cruiser like Sverdlov.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:09 pm
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Ian R
The retired HMS Centurion fitted with dummy turrets etc to masquerade as the HMS Anson?
Nope....I intentionally picked a very difficult ship. If this group can get it, not sure I can come up with something harder!!!
It's harder because you can't see all the turrets and guns due to the coverings
I will at least give a timeframe; that photo was taken in 1945
That forward rangefinder appears to be in a sub-optimal position - s/b higher up for more visibility.
I think it is a Russian cruiser like Sverdlov.
It is not a Russian cruiser. I'll give more hints if everyone is stumped. Also, I did say this picture was taken in 1945. It was August of 1945. So it's not a Sverdlov, as those were post ww2
It's tough to get, I wouldn't get it if I didn't know!!!
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:52 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Nope....I intentionally picked a very difficult ship. If this group can get it, not sure I can come up with something harder!!!
It's harder because you can't see all the turrets and guns due to the coverings
I will at least give a timeframe; that photo was taken in 1945
That forward rangefinder appears to be in a sub-optimal position - s/b higher up for more visibility.
I think it is a Russian cruiser like Sverdlov.
It is not a Russian cruiser. I'll give more hints if everyone is stumped. Also, I did say this picture was taken in 1945. It was August of 1945. So it's not a Sverdlov, as those were post ww2
It's tough to get, I wouldn't get it if I didn't know!!!
Didn't notice the 1945 comment. The widely spaced funnels suggest CL Belfast.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:55 pm
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Didn't notice the 1945 comment. The widely spaced funnels suggest CL Belfast.
You're getting slightly warmer, but not hot yet......good observation
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:10 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Wow, quick identification! It's hard to fool this group
I love this game...can anyone guess this ship?
ARA La Argentina.
Threw me for a bit seeing as all the Brit CL designs seem so similar...
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:30 am
by fcooke
Visiting HMS Belfast is a good use of a couple of hours if you are on the south bank of the Thames. You can then hit the Imperial War Museum. The current version is more suited to the general population than we old geezers. But the Holocoust exhibit will likely need you to visit a pub afterwards.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:33 am
by fcooke
And the Tate modern is right there as well. art not my thing but the building is fascinating to me.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:17 pm
by Q-Ball
ARA La Argetina is correct! Photo taken at New Orleans on August 8, 1945....Argentina had joined the Allies in March, so I suppose she was in New Orleans for a refit
She was a modified Arethusa-class, lengthened to support additional berthing for training cadets
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:31 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ARA La Argetina is correct! Photo taken at New Orleans on August 8, 1945....Argentina had joined the Allies in March, so I suppose she was in New Orleans for a refit
She was a modified Arethusa-class, lengthened to support additional berthing for training cadets
warspite1
...so nothing like most Royal Navy cruisers of the time M_M [;)].... I smell a rat [:-]
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:44 pm
by GI Jive
An observation: The picture of the Randolph could not have been taken in 1945. The national insignia on the Bearcat wings include red stripes on the white horizontal bars - a revision that was not authorized until January 1947.
P.S. I never would have figured out either ship. Congrats to those who did.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:54 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ARA La Argetina is correct! Photo taken at New Orleans on August 8, 1945....Argentina had joined the Allies in March, so I suppose she was in New Orleans for a refit
She was a modified Arethusa-class, lengthened to support additional berthing for training cadets
warspite1
...so nothing like most Royal Navy cruisers of the time M_M [;)].... I smell a rat [:-]
Wonderful thing, the internet [:)]
In fairness it is a good reminder to give pilots some slack when they misidentify ships.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:44 pm
by obvert
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ARA La Argetina is correct! Photo taken at New Orleans on August 8, 1945....Argentina had joined the Allies in March, so I suppose she was in New Orleans for a refit
She was a modified Arethusa-class, lengthened to support additional berthing for training cadets
warspite1
...so nothing like most Royal Navy cruisers of the time M_M [;)].... I smell a rat [:-]
ARA La Argentina
Built by the British, and does show very similar hull and turret layout. The superstructure different though.
