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Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:56 pm
by Andy Mac
File attached fair warning playing as Japan give yourself some presents - you are going to need them...…….

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:23 pm
by PaxMondo
Would you rate this as Nasty (tier 3) or worse, like your one time Nasty, Nasty that you posted and took back down?

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:26 pm
by PaxMondo
BTW: thank you VERY much in either case. I can't wait to see the AI!!!!

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:07 pm
by Andy Mac
T3 probably I kind of ended up not having an easier one

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:55 am
by PaxMondo
[:D][:D][:D]

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:32 pm
by Mikawa
Hello, I downloaded the files from this thread and overlaid on an existing Scenario 17 mod. I can't remember, but think these files were from Andy Mac's Scenario 17 AI update.

I use JGSME so the files in the screenshot below will overlay anything in the SCEN file from the original install. Tough to remember where all these mods come from......

At any rate, does this look correct to play Scenario 17 Tier 3 Allied Ironman (Allied AI)?

thanks



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RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:32 pm
by Mikawa
Hello, could I get some assistance here. I don’t ask for help,often! Thanks!

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:01 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Mikawa

Hello, could I get some assistance here. I don’t ask for help,often! Thanks!

I usually don't look here. I also don't have dual monitors so it is a little more difficult for me.

I downloaded from the link above, then I extracted the files. The files that came with the download are the same size as what you posted. That is all that I looked at. I hope that this helps. I have not played this scenario so I don't know about the other files.

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:17 pm
by Mikawa
Thanks Ranger Joe.

I think the 11 files in this download only update the scenario data. The files look like scenario files (AEI017, CAM017, SCN017, WPA017, WPC017, etc.). The files for the AI as I understand are like AEI017-x.......so since these are not in the download I think its fair to say this is just an update to the existing scenario files and I can just overlay them.

This is an awesome game, but since it takes so much time investment want to make sure I have this right. Have some time on my hands so I'll give it a try. I should probably just try PBEM!

thank you for you help. appreciate it.

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:18 pm
by RangerJoe
You are welcome.

There are new AI updates as well, they are on another thread.

Joe.

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:51 pm
by Andy Mac
bump

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:37 pm
by morphin
Hi Andy
Do you already have a version of Scen 16 Allied AI?
Thank's
Andy

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:08 pm
by Kull
I'm pretty sure there never was a "Scenario 16". I'm guessing you are looking for an equivalent to the Scenario 10 "Tier 1" (Japanese AI), but there isn't one. Andy originally had two versions of Scenario 17 - "Tier 2" and "Tier 3" (I talk about them a bit and have links here) - but the updated Scenario 17 in this thread is entirely Tier 3 (See Andy's comments in post #4).

To clarify the terminology:

- Tier 1 is "Ironman" and gives the AI opponent additional weapons, but the types (if not the timing and the quantities) should be familiar. The AI will be aggressive, but...within reason.

- Tier 2 is "Ironman Nasty" which significantly increases the quantity and "early availability" of AI assets. The AI will be more aggressive in their use.

- Tier 3 is "Ironman Nasty Nasty" which takes Tier 2 and expands on it in ways that WILL make your life a living hell.

I'm not sure you can truly equate a Tier 3 Allied AI with a Tier 3 Japanese AI, and my limited experience with the early Scenario 17 AI was painful but livable. As a general assessment, I'd say it was roughly equivalent to "Japanese Tier 1.5" (not that such a thing exists). However, if the current version is a true Tier 3? Go with God, my son. [;)]

Edit: Added definitions for the "Tier types"

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:34 am
by morphin
Thank's
I refer to the thread

fb.asp?m=5113083

Andy has a list of scenarios he is working on. On this list scen 16 (Beware of Dorniers (Allied T1 Ironman) seems to me just the right one.... It should be like Scen 10 but for Allied AI.... So does he abandoned this scenario?

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:56 am
by Kull
ORIGINAL: morphin

Thank's
I refer to the thread

fb.asp?m=5113083

Andy has a list of scenarios he is working on. On this list scen 16 (Beware of Dorniers (Allied T1 Ironman) seems to me just the right one.... It should be like Scen 10 but for Allied AI.... So does he abandoned this scenario?


Ahh, interesting! I was referring only to scenarios I knew had been released. A Tier 1 Scenario 16 would be very cool, and I hope he follows through with that plan. Apologies for my misleading response

RE: Scen 17 Allied Ironman

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:21 am
by morphin
No Problem. I hope also that he is working on this [:)]