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European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:26 pm
by mroyer
I'm a bit confused with the numbering format used, i.e., commas versus points.
Clearly, in the following graphic the population is sixty-thousand and seven-hundred.
But, what is the income? Is it one-thousandth of a CR or one CR? This issue crops up in a pile of places.
thanks for any help clarifying.

RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:30 pm
by Malevolence
It's the European thing. Those are thousand separators. Already reported.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:34 pm
by mroyer
So... the income in the example is 1 CR? That seems incorrect to me.
-Mark R.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:00 pm
by LordAldrich
ORIGINAL: mroyer
So... the income in the example is 1 CR? That seems incorrect to me.
-Mark R.
You're correct, the usage here is inconsistant. The Population wage approximation (which is what this number is) and Worker/Soldier/Colonist wages are measured in thousandths of a credit.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:31 pm
by Malevolence
Sorry, I wasn't more thorough. LordAldrich is absolutely right.
Even back before release:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4821951
There is also a discussion about Celsius and Fahrenheit already too.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:04 pm
by mroyer
Okay, thanks.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:26 am
by Tree Dog
It's odd, I properly get a comma as decimal separator.
I'd rather a space than a dot as thousands separator, too.

RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:08 am
by mroyer
It's odd, I properly get a comma as decimal separator.
Yes, odd. I just checked the workers button and indeed, mine shows a point, not a comma.
Perhaps you're on the latest beta and the inconsistency has been corrected?
I'm using the official v1.03 release.
I'd rather a space than a dot as thousands separator, too.
I'm good with whatever notation the designer wants to use.
I just need to understand it [:)]
-Mark R.
edit:
Nope - I just installed v1.03 beta 8 and mine still shows 0.001cr
There's got to be some sort of language-localization thing going on, perhaps with Windows .NET framework or core.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:32 am
by FAA
I was really confused too [:D]
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:49 am
by Tchey
USA system is weird and used almost only in USA and a few other countries like Birmany.
example Fahrenheit is based on a very specific mix of products, while Celcius is based on the most common liquid on the planet at a given pressure, verifiable by anyone without knowledge nor tech.
Water change status at 0 to go to Ice, and at 100 to go to vapor. A post-apo kid would be able to find and understand it...
Fahrenheit, miles, different scales for weight too...
The infamous Mars Climate Orbiter was destroyed in 1999 because of these differences and lack of communication between tech teams.
Several laws tries to go metric, or ISU International Standard Unit, but none of the laws being forced, states did nothing yet.
Big groups say it would cost too much to go ISU from imperial (a few millions), but at the same time, they spend billions in ads...
In time, it’s almost certain ISU will be accepted also by USA, but science logic and share in this country is not well accepted.
RE: European(?) number format confusion
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:00 am
by mroyer
USA system is weird and used almost only in USA
Yep. I remember when the USA tried to change to metric under President Carter back in the 1970s - it was a mess and never gained real traction. As an electrical engineer, I deal with this every day. Metric (mostly) all day at work and English when I'm at home... Many Americans end up with two sets of tools because of this, one metric and one English. In the lab at work, finding the right wrench is a particularly frustrating experience... oh... that's 7mm, not 1/4 inch... urrgh. [:@] [:)]
Then the digit-heads (digital/computer electrical engineers) went and started using base-16 mathematics... So, now I have to have two math calculator apps on my smartphone... lol.
-Mark R.