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runs very poorly in Windows 10
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:31 am
by maxb
game seems really exceptionally thought out as a Game. capital G
problem is that on my computer I've got about 10 minutes of gameplay out of it on any of my systems, now I run Windows 10 and it just ... frankly guys this program can't seem to stay running more than 5 minutes.
it just isn't working. if I could choose "this game stops malfunctioning" and "refund my money" I'd vastly prefer to just enjoy the game - what's the deal?
am I alone in this?
if not I'll send email out but honestly at this point I am just a little confused why a game that doesn't work whatsoever on modern Windows machines is being sold and people aren't allowed to get their money back for a product that doesn't work?
again, I'd much rather this product work because it seems like the best available option for this type of scenario
RE: runs very poorly in Windows 10
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:39 am
by kbfchicago
Max, see the sticky thread above in this (Technical) forum called "Slow Performance". Apply switches to application startup as recommended.
The game runs just fine under Win10, just have to tweak it a bit since it was not designed to do so (e.g. multi-cpu processes, etc.)
Kevin
RE: runs very poorly in Windows 10
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:39 am
by Nomad
It will run under Windows 10, but it needs a bit of tweaking. I would suggest you get SeaBee Alpha, found here:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4415089
RE: runs very poorly in Windows 10
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:30 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: maxb
game seems really exceptionally thought out as a Game. capital G
problem is that on my computer I've got about 10 minutes of gameplay out of it on any of my systems, now I run Windows 10 and it just ... frankly guys this program can't seem to stay running more than 5 minutes.
it just isn't working. if I could choose "this game stops malfunctioning" and "refund my money" I'd vastly prefer to just enjoy the game - what's the deal?
am I alone in this?
if not I'll send email out but honestly at this point I am just a little confused why a game that doesn't work whatsoever on modern Windows machines is being sold and people aren't allowed to get their money back for a product that doesn't work?
again, I'd much rather this product work because it seems like the best available option for this type of scenario
For context, the game is 10+ years old and the game engine (the part that computes outcomes) goes back many years before that. An application (in this case, the game) runs using hooks into the Operating System (OS) which works with the way the computer chips are designed. In the many years since the game engine was created, the chips and OS hooks have changed, and video display hardware/drivers has gotten a lot more complex.
To make the game work with modern systems the developers were smart enough to make "switches" to bridge the old to the new. Because there are so many different configurations of computer chips/display card/monitors and OSs out there, the exact switches that will make your system run best requires a bit of experimentation. You can do this by changing them one by one. It will not affect your game permanently - you can always delete switches.
RE: runs very poorly in Windows 10
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:58 pm
by moore4807
MaxB - perhaps if you gave us your computer system components, we might be able to troubleshoot your problem a little better. Like the others have pointed out here the switches in the game are almost mandatory nowadays but the game runs fine once the switches are set properly.
If you are a wargaming fan, this game will overwhelm you in the beginning with its depth and integration of ALL formats of fighting in the Pacific - fortunately there are players who have posted guides and recommended settings to play by for your education. This game is awesome! even after 10 years I'm still playing both PBEM and solo.
RE: runs very poorly in Windows 10
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:19 am
by Ian R
I wonder if Max has his switches sorted out.
It might be worth mentioning that they go in the target line in a shortcut linked straight to the exe, not the batch file that pops up the cover screen.
TLDR:
Right click the .exe file, create a shortcut, and paste this in the target line.
"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -wd -skipVideo -deepColor -dd_sw -cpu2 -pxf1920 -pyf1080 -archive -altFont -autosave
Couple of other things - the switches work with the latest official patch, which is version 1.26a. The target line above is for that official version and a standard install.
There is a beta patch to version 1.26b available in this forum (technical area). It actually creates a shortcut to the beta exe file, and the target line in it should look something like:
"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -wd -skipVideo -deepColor -dd_sw -cpu2 -pxf1872-pyf1053 -archive -altFont -autosave