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Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:09 pm
by JWW
And expand them? Level II? III? IV? Asking for a friend.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:36 am
by goodwoodrw
Not all assets can be nationalised
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 am
by JWW
ORIGINAL: goodwoodrw
Not all assets can be nationalised
It was something of a joke. I just happened to click on a brothel to read the fine print and realized that it couldn't be nationalized, and I began thinking of the possibilities of a nationalized brothel chain and the negative and positive effects that it might have on the economy, logistics, readiness, etc..
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:33 am
by demiare
ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13
the negative and positive effects that it might have on the economy, logistics, readiness, etc..
Do you really need another source of workers unhappiness? [:D]
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:50 am
by ramnblam
On a related topic does the private economy actually ever upgrade their buildings apart from farms and mines? If you check out a lot of them they do have higher levels available but I don't recall ever seeing them upgraded.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:56 am
by demiare
ORIGINAL: ramnblam
On a related topic does the private economy actually ever upgrade their buildings apart from farms and mines?
Yes. Seems that they're considering having free population before upgrading, but my lvl4+ zones usually upgrading their civilian economy assets to level 2, while capital end with level 3.
You may see this issue as their SECOND priority (past mines&farms) is to build Light Industry lvl 3 and it's quite expensive both in money and workers.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:15 am
by zgrssd
ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13
And expand them? Level II? III? IV? Asking for a friend.
You can only nationalize things that have a Public Economy Equivalent that they lock out. It primarily works with raw resource producers.
As for the idea of Public Prositution? I can not think of any explicit example.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:11 am
by Maerchen
We are talking about war times. So the ianfu, comfort women for the the japanese or the Lager- and Wehrmachtsbordelle of the germans were a thing in WW II.
And regarding the starting barabaric civilization levels, I assume that in autocratic regimes this could be a thing in SE, too.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:50 am
by demiare
ORIGINAL: Maerchen
We are talking about war times. So the ianfu, comfort women for the the japanese or the Lager- and Wehrmachtsbordelle of the germans were a thing in WW II.
And regarding the starting barabaric civilization levels, I assume that in autocratic regimes this could be a thing in SE, too.
Yes. But if bordellos are public assets - their vacancies are filled by workers. Guess what? They would be unhappy. Do you really want another source of workers unhappiness? [:D]
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:53 pm
by JWW
ORIGINAL: demiare
ORIGINAL: Maerchen
We are talking about war times. So the ianfu, comfort women for the the japanese or the Lager- and Wehrmachtsbordelle of the germans were a thing in WW II.
And regarding the starting barabaric civilization levels, I assume that in autocratic regimes this could be a thing in SE, too.
Yes. But if bordellos are public assets - their vacancies are filled by workers. Guess what? They would be unhappy. Do you really want another source of workers unhappiness? [:D]
Why are you assuming they would be unhappy? Seems like we would need a slider to be able to improve their pay to generate happiness, that could then affect overall worker happiness. And more stratagem cards related to bordello worker happiness. We would also need a supervisor and research lines, etc. It could become a whole mini-game.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 pm
by ObeseMonkey
There are many of examples of nationalised brothels throughout history and the present during peace time. Some examples are the state of Qi in warring states china, and I have read of some in antiquity. Athens had them for example. Modern day Cuba had state run brothels for a long time (not sure if thats still the case). It would make more sense if we could either nationalise them, leave them, or abolish them completely depending on the type of regime we are playing.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:01 pm
by demiare
ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13
Why are you assuming they would be unhappy? Seems like we would need a slider to be able to improve their pay to generate happiness, that could then affect overall worker happiness. And more stratagem cards related to bordello worker happiness. We would also need a supervisor and research lines, etc. It could become a whole mini-game.
There is enough bad, good and wonderful bordello management sims around. No need to turn quite unique SE into another one

RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:14 pm
by JWW
ORIGINAL: demiare
ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13
Why are you assuming they would be unhappy? Seems like we would need a slider to be able to improve their pay to generate happiness, that could then affect overall worker happiness. And more stratagem cards related to bordello worker happiness. We would also need a supervisor and research lines, etc. It could become a whole mini-game.
There is enough bad, good and wonderful bordello management sims around. No need to turn quite unique SE into another one
Wait, there are bordello management sims? I will have to research that! Seriously, you are right, and I was just having fun.
RE: Okay, why can't I nationalize my brothels?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:22 pm
by demiare
ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13
I was just having fun.
Okay, it was obvious for me (and I hope for everyone here too [:D]). You just cornered me and I decided to not dive deeper into theme why workers of bordello will be unhappy. [8|]