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Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:00 pm
by OPilot
WITPAE has the victory points for an SST Yu class sub as 22 but Tracker has it as 7 points. This sub has a displacement of only 273 tons and so 7 points seems more reasonable. Is WITPAE really crediting the Allies with 22 victory points for sinking a Type Yu sub? The durability of the Type Yu is 22 in both WITPAE and Tracker. Which victory point value should I go with when deciding whether or not to risk losing one of these small subs that can transport only 40 tons of supplies? Is there a glitch in WITPAE or Tracker that leads to this discrepancy in victory points?

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:03 pm
by Alfred
There is no bug here.  The VPs are WAD.
 
Alfred

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:26 pm
by Lowpe
OPilot,

I use those subs all the time.

I pick very low aggression high naval skill leaders, and I set their routing controls to low threat, safer. I don't believe I have ever lost one with those changes and I tend to micro manage them a bit...you have to as they are sub transports.

You have to be somewhat careful in how you use them.

In all honesty they aren't really great ships.


RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:18 pm
by OPilot
Alfred

Sorry, I don't know what WAD is an acronym for? Should I go with 22 or 7 for the victory points?

OPilot

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:41 pm
by Nomad
WAD = Working As Designed.

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:00 am
by GetAssista
Sinking one of those very few IJ Army subs deals a hu-u-ge blow to the Army morale. That's why those high VPs :)

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:44 am
by Yaab
At 22 VPs, they are future dock queens for sure.

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:24 am
by Uncivil Engineer
ORIGINAL: Yaab

At 22 VPs, they are future dock queens for sure.

Not if you don't build them.

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:17 am
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Uncivil Engineer

ORIGINAL: Yaab

At 22 VPs, they are future dock queens for sure.

Not if you don't build them.


Heresy! How could you go a game without them? That would be like playing without the Stella.[:D]

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:20 am
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Heresy! How could you go a game without them? That would be like playing without the Stella.[:D]
Heresy! No self-respecting JFB plays without THE Stella! It is carrier capable and lets you resize IJAF groups on CVs [:D]

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:56 pm
by Yaab
Stella has insane maneuver rating. Cannot be hit by heavy flak guns.

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:09 pm
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Yaab

Stella has insane maneuver rating. Cannot be hit by heavy flak guns.
Would be strange cause heavy flak is area denial weapon not on-target. Maneuvers do not help here unless they are fast altitude changes and speed (Stella is capable of none) to throw off the area guesstimate

RE: Victory Points for Japanese Type Yu Transport Sub

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:31 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Yaab

Stella has insane maneuver rating. Cannot be hit by heavy flak guns.
I think "5 O'clock Charlie" in the MASH episode was a Stella. It's sputtering engine provided all the maneuvering needed. It even got Maj. Burns' 40MM Bofors to hit the ammo dump for it!