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China invasion senario
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:57 pm
by Norm49
Hi,
Did any one ever made a scenario were we have to begin the invasion of china, and introduce its navy?
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:44 am
by Alfred
Check to see if you find one in the master available scenarios thread.
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3088504
If there isn't one there, then you can safely assume no one has created one. To be certain, search the forum.
Alfred
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:00 am
by Ian R
ORIGINAL: Norm49
Hi,
Did any one ever made a scenario were we have to begin the invasion of china, and introduce its navy?
Do you mean starting in 1937?
I do not think the game recognises a start date before 7-12-41.
You could however game this out on a different platform (E.g. GRD's War of Resistance), then make a modified scenario which imposed that simulation's 7/12/41 position on WITPAE.
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:12 am
by RangerJoe
I thought that some people did some mods where the was in the Pacific started earlier but if the dates are hard coded, then they would have to use the current dating system.
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:47 am
by Alfred
It is possible to create a scenario which starts before 7 December 1941, but ....
There are certain things hard coded into the exe; not many but what is there is rather significant. The consequence is that starting before the Day of Infamy will generate certain situations which the mod designer probably did not want. Achieving play balance in such an early scenario then becomes rather problematic. Certainly adhering to historical conditions will be well neigh impossible.
Personally, I view the attempt to create a 1937 scenario to be a fools exercise. The AE engine is optimized for the historical 12/41-3/46 time period. It becomes ragged outside of that period.
Alfred
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:07 am
by Evoken
One way i see this working is that you delete all other nations but China and Japan and go back to pre-war borders with Dec 7th start date and play from there , but the problem is creating that scenario would take hundreds of hours in editor alone and hundreds more on research to find starting positions for armies , their strength and such
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 am
by RangerJoe
Just use part of the map like other scenarios.
RE: China invasion senario
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm
by Q-Ball
Also, is WITPAE really the best platform for what is essentially a land war? Land combat is very abstracted in the platform, and not it's strong suit. There are many others that could do a better job of it.