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Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:16 am
by stryc
Does it matter which order you select units to engage in battle? The Odds calculation can vary (sometimes wildly) depending on the order in which you add the same units to the battle. Why does this happen?
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:30 am
by Falke
Max Attacked Modifier - Page 299 of Manual
If you have to many attackers, later units get a penalty. Always select your best units first for best odds
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:40 pm
by stryc
I see that but the Max Attack value tooltip doesn't seem to make much sense.
How does this...
End up being this with the addition of Sentinels...

RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:44 pm
by stryc
Actually, it seems the addition of Sentinels pulls the Concentric Attack modifier down to +40% from +80%, which doesn't make much sense as the number of vectors of attacks hasn't decreased.
It seems to want to have one unit attacking from each direction and as soon as you start to add more units to any one of those directions the bonus starts to disappear. Odd.
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:51 pm
by Soar_Slitherine
That's because the concentric attack bonus is halved if the attacking units don't all belong to the same OHQ.
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:59 pm
by stryc
Ah! Now that makes sense. (And found it in the manual: "The Concentric Bonus will be halved if Units from multiple HQs are involved.")
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:01 am
by gmsitton
I've seen the same thing. You can select your units to attack, deselect some, then re-select the original ones and get different combat odds that you got the first time.
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:37 pm
by JWW
I just see it as a feature. Sequencing your units to get the best odds.
RE: Combat Odds - Varies With Unit Selection Order
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:00 pm
by gmsitton
ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13
I just see it as a feature. Sequencing your units to get the best odds.
Indeed