Page 1 of 2
Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:28 pm
by Manstein63
Playing version 1.00.07.3 and Finland has not been receiving the oil & resources that Germany has been sending each turn. I thought that it might be the weather that was stopping resources getting through, but we have had a clear turn but Finland is still not getting the supplies through.
Manstein63
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:57 pm
by Harrybanana
In the Winter you can't send resources to Finland due to the frozen ports. In the summer you can only send resources if you have available MS; note that most of your MS will already be in use transporting resources from Sweden to Germany. So you should check to see how many MS you have and how many are being used for the Swedish route. An odd thing IMHO is that even if you capture Leningrad and have a rail connection with Helsinki, you can still only send resources to Finland via sea with MS.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:20 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: Harrybanana
An odd thing IMHO is that even if you capture Leningrad and have a rail connection with Helsinki, you can still only send resources to Finland via sea with MS.
Looks like a bug.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:40 am
by AlvaroSousa
Post a screen shot. Blizzard in sea zones blocks convoys
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:06 pm
by Harrybanana
Alvaro,
I understand that. But if Leningrad is captured and there is an unbroken rail link to Helsinki from Berlin why would production or resources transferred from Germany to Finland need to be shipped by sea at all? In other words, it shouldn't matter if there is a blizzard or not since the production or resources should be going overland by rail.
I believe the game is programmed so that resources and oil transferred to Finland can only be transported by sea, even if there is a rail link.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:14 pm
by malkarma
I think that is a limitation due to the coding of transport routes. Same happen with Greece, you can´t send LL because there is no a valid convoy path between UK and Greece.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:58 pm
by magic87966
ORIGINAL: Harrybanana
Alvaro,
I understand that. But if Leningrad is captured and there is an unbroken rail link to Helsinki from Berlin why would production or resources transferred from Germany to Finland need to be shipped by sea at all? In other words, it shouldn't matter if there is a blizzard or not since the production or resources should be going overland by rail.
I believe the game is programmed so that resources and oil transferred to Finland can only be transported by sea, even if there is a rail link.
I agree. Germany should be able to send production/oil to Finland via rail if the rail lines are open.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:12 pm
by Cigar King
Germany should be able to ship resources to any country it has a rail link with. Greece, for example.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:51 am
by AlvaroSousa
It can.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:50 am
by malkarma
UK can´t...I tried and the game says that there is no valid convoy route to Greece.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:44 pm
by Harrybanana
Alvaro,
If the Axis capture Leningrad and have a direct rail link from Berlin to Helsinki the game does not (as far as I can tell) allow Germany to transfer production/resources to Finland via rail, only via the sea convoy route. The problem with this is that it limits the amount of production/resources that can be transferred to the number of available MS. So is this WAD, or is this something that you will be fixing?
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:06 pm
by AlvaroSousa
I think I might know why. Probably because Helsinki is Frozen and a water hex.
All resources go through the capital. Thus.....
So I will have to do something about that.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:16 pm
by AlvaroSousa
It is working as it should. You are missing something like a damaged rail or a Soviet controlled hex.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:39 pm
by AlvaroSousa
And yes I tried on blizzard blizzard in the Baltic Sea and Finland
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:02 pm
by Lascar
I am encountering the same problem. There is a trade agreement between Germany and Finland for oil but no oil is reaching Finland. It is the middle of summer and the weather is clear.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:15 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Chk MMs arent all used up
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:49 am
by magic87966
Why would Merchants be needed if it's supposed to go by rail? In my current game as Axis, I have owned Leningrad and all of the hexes around it for a year and a half and I have never been able to send PP's or Oil to Finland except via sea.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:10 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Is this PBEM or A.I.?
If it is A.I. post a dropbox onedrive cloud link to the game where I can download and I will look at it.
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:55 pm
by magic87966
PBEM
RE: Finland not getting supplies
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:49 am
by kennonlightfoot
My experience has been that only the water route is ever used to move supplies to Finland. If you control the rail route it doesn't seem to try to use that as an alternative.