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Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:55 am
by stockwellpete
I have been spending some time with this excellent new version of the game in recent weeks. Just some observations . . .
1) Playing as Entente, can you start spending the MPP for the USA in 1914/15? Or do you have to wait until they enter the war? I am pretty sure I lost the 100+ MPP I spent in 1914 to upgrade their industrial production.
2) When watching the last turn and something hits one of my naval mines the camera does not move to where the incident happened.
3) the Bolsheviks are described as "hot-headed". That is a bit perjorative, don't you think? Considering the various ruling classes had just set the world on fire in their attempts to redraw the global map.
4) I won a major victory as the Entente on intermediate setting for the first time. The screen is OK but it could have done with a musical fanfare or something to make it a bit more exciting.
But overall, this is a great game.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:39 pm
by FOARP
ORIGINAL: stockwellpete
I have been spending some time with this excellent new version of the game in recent weeks. Just some observations . . .
1) Playing as Entente, can you start spending the MPP for the USA in 1914/15? Or do you have to wait until they enter the war? I am pretty sure I lost the 100+ MPP I spent in 1914 to upgrade their industrial production.
2) When watching the last turn and something hits one of my naval mines the camera does not move to where the incident happened.
3) the Bolsheviks are described as "hot-headed". That is a bit perjorative, don't you think? Considering the various ruling classes had just set the world on fire in their attempts to redraw the global map.
4) I won a major victory as the Entente on intermediate setting for the first time. The screen is OK but it could have done with a musical fanfare or something to make it a bit more exciting.
But overall, this is a great game.
1) You can spend the MPP AFAIK.
2) Not sure about this - I think the area has to be in sight of one of your (not mine) units. Makes sense as mines couldn't see.
3) Well, I'm pretty sure the Bolsheviks are beyond caring about being described pejoratively. However if Lenin et al decide to send Fury software a letter of complaint I'm sure it will get a fair hearing!
4) I too miss the 80's/90's style of games where they would have some grand ending scene for games like this and you would enter your name into the score board.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:51 am
by BillRunacre
Just to clarify on 1), all Majors can spend their income whether or not they are currently involved in the war. The key thing is to spend the initial MPPs wisely, because for the US it won't have a significant military budget for quite some time.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:29 pm
by Ktonos
Usually messages in fury games are "role played" and reported from the respective of the one sending the letter. eg in SC, war in Europe, on your first turn as the Axis your HQ command describes the Allies as warmongers. I assume the Bolsheviks being hotheaded is a description given from the perspective of someone who doesn't like them?
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:29 am
by stockwellpete
What is the exact difference between infantry corps and mountain corps please? Presumably the mountain corps have some advantage in mountainous terrain, do they?
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:35 pm
by BillRunacre
That's right, they receive a +1 bonus when attacking into, or defending a mountain hex, but elsewhere they are identical to normal infantry Corps.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:10 am
by stockwellpete
ORIGINAL: BillRunacre
That's right, they receive a +1 bonus when attacking into, or defending a mountain hex, but elsewhere they are identical to normal infantry Corps.
OK thanks. That definitely makes them worth purchasing.
Next thing I have noticed is that the Russians always try and defend Warsaw with a detachment, even when there are infantry corps available to do the same job. Is there a historical reason for this?
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:57 am
by Hubert Cater
For Warsaw, that's just a scripting issue, I'll update that for the next build.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:03 am
by Xsillione
3) the Bolsheviks are described as "hot-headed". That is a bit perjorative, don't you think?
You are perfectly right, this is very pejorative towards any hothead, the commies are the worst scum on earth, so no, you cannot really be properly negative towards them to the extent they deserve it.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:40 am
by stockwellpete
You sound nice!
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:56 am
by FOARP
ORIGINAL: stockwellpete
You sound nice!
Well, there's plenty of people on this forum who grew up and lived under communism and their views of it aren't likely to be positive. But this is OT.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:06 am
by stockwellpete
ORIGINAL: FOARP
ORIGINAL: stockwellpete
You sound nice!
Well, there's plenty of people on this forum who grew up and lived under communism and their views of it aren't likely to be positive. But this is OT.
I think they might be confusing Leninism and Stalinism myself. The two ideologies are opposites, one being revolutionary and internationalist, the other being counter-revolutionary and nationalistic (e.g. Stalin's "socialism in one country" nonsense starting in 1924).
In terms of representation in the game, I think neutral language is better, regardless of what one might think about particular ideologies or individuals.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:50 am
by Hubert Cater
Just to clarify here the in game message regarding the "hot headed" line is indeed in character (for flavour), e.g. from the Chief of the General Staff to your leadership, and not an attempt at an expression of our opinions there. In reality it is probably safe to say that any side of any conflict typically saw the other as hot headed, or similar, or worse, and so on.
The follow up lines are more general in nature, e.g. informative/neutral and not in character, and we believe this has led to the confusion here in the NOTES section. For the next patch there will be some separation between the two sections (within the NOTES screen) in order to ideally alleviate any confusion here.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:53 am
by stockwellpete
OK thanks.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:23 pm
by Xsillione
ORIGINAL: stockwellpete
I think they might be confusing Leninism and Stalinism myself.
I think you know nothing about socialism and communism, so no, i have no confusion about this, just experience, which you clearly have none.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:39 am
by stockwellpete
We cannot debate this here as it is a games forum, but you could not be more wrong. Do some research on Trotsky to improve your understanding. I will not post any more on this subject.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:31 pm
by stockwellpete
The French seem to have a "graveyard hex" at 160.86 (the hex has the word "Vosges" on it). The AI just keeps putting fresh Corps units there each turn where they can be attacked by 3 German units (using "prepared" attacks) and they usually get wiped out each time. They would be much better off leaving that hex as "no man's land" and just occupying the Epinal fortified town hex.
I just do not attack French units in that hex now unless I am looking to make a more substantial push forward in that sector.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:11 pm
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: stockwellpete
The French seem to have a "graveyard hex" at 160.86 (the hex has the word "Vosges" on it). The AI just keeps putting fresh Corps units there each turn where they can be attacked by 3 German units (using "prepared" attacks) and they usually get wiped out each time. They would be much better off leaving that hex as "no man's land" and just occupying the Epinal fortified town hex.
I just do not attack French units in that hex now unless I am looking to make a more substantial push forward in that sector.
Yeah this has been mentioned many times hoping they fix this!
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:02 am
by Hubert Cater
Thanks guys and I believe this should now be fixed for the next update.
RE: Bits and bobs . . .
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:14 am
by stockwellpete
ORIGINAL: Hubert Cater
Thanks guys and I believe this should now be fixed for the next update.
Thanks Hubert.