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ORIGINAL: Ian R

It's based on the vanilla WITP version isn't it?

I would rather see a Mediterranean setting, although you would probably need to restrict it to the period January 41 -> July 43.

*Edit - using the AE engine.

ORIGINAL: Ian R

It's based on the vanilla WITP version isn't it?

I would rather see a Mediterranean setting, although you would probably need to restrict it to the period January 41 -> July 43.

*Edit - using the AE engine.

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

ORIGINAL: Ian R

It's based on the vanilla WITP version isn't it?

I would rather see a Mediterranean setting, although you would probably need to restrict it to the period January 41 -> July 43.

*Edit - using the AE engine.

I’m with you on that, I always loved the naval component of the war in the Mediterranean. I vaguely remember a mod project on AE (or was it still WITP ?), but it got stuck. I think the main problem might be the land combat engine - while it may be adequate for the land component of the war in the Pacific, the North African Desert campaign was very much a war of movement.

ORIGINAL: btd64

I played it a bit. I found it to be boring after a while. Mostly because it was kinda like looking for a needle in a haystack, since during the period there weren't many aircraft for navalsearch....GP

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
If it were WPO scenario in the AE engine? Yeah, I'd play that.

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I tried it a number of years ago when it went on fall sale. I wanted to play a game that was more in the surface combat realm.

Unfortunately, the UI improvements of AE made my experience with WPO...not great. I didn't do more than 1 turn. Solely because of the UI. If it were WPO scenario in the AE engine? Yeah, I'd play that.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

ORIGINAL: Ian R

It's based on the vanilla WITP version isn't it?

I would rather see a Mediterranean setting, although you would probably need to restrict it to the period January 41 -> July 43.

*Edit - using the AE engine.

If memory serves, somebody did build a new scenario, new map, everything for the Med many years ago, back when WITP came out. I am nearly certain that's correct. Anyone else recall that?

At first it was really cool to model the Regia Marina and all the Italian/German planes in a sandbox with the Royal Navy. IIRC, the mod ran aground in BETA form because a) the Italian Navy would get smacked, and/or b) the land component was too abstracted to really work

I think the problem using this engine for the Med is that the Med was really focused in getting supplies and material to North Africa, and preventing the Axis from doing exactly that. I think it would be very hard to create and balance the same priorities for the Axis player. And the WITP-AE land model would just not work in the Western Desert, it would be a disaster.

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

ORIGINAL: Ian R

It's based on the vanilla WITP version isn't it?

I would rather see a Mediterranean setting, although you would probably need to restrict it to the period January 41 -> July 43.

*Edit - using the AE engine.

I’m with you on that, I always loved the naval component of the war in the Mediterranean. I vaguely remember a mod project on AE (or was it still WITP ?), but it got stuck. I think the main problem might be the land combat engine - while it may be adequate for the land component of the war in the Pacific, the North African Desert campaign was very much a war of movement.

Actually a much bigger problem for a Mediterranean version of AE is the hex range. For land combat purposes the hex size should be reduced to 20 statute miles. That would give you a 3-4 hex space between the sea and the Quattara Depression. Bigger sized hexes would not permit any land flanking possibilities.

However, if the hex size is 20 statute miles, that creates naval combat problems for the main guns of the battleships at times exchanged fire at ranges beyond 20 statute miles. The AE system does not allow for combat to extend over two adjacent hexes simultaneously.

Alfred

ORIGINAL: JeffroK

WPO needs an AE update.

Too many are used to long ranging aircraft and see it as a slow game.

Given a map facelift, LCU/Ships/Aircraft reviewed and tidied up leaves a game with lots of surprises. CR's picket lines come into vogue as you need something to provide warning, there are a lot of approaches to be covered. You get an inkling about why some obsolete tactics were used at the start of the Big war.

ORIGINAL: LeeChard

ORIGINAL: JeffroK

WPO needs an AE update.

Too many are used to long ranging aircraft and see it as a slow game.

Given a map facelift, LCU/Ships/Aircraft reviewed and tidied up leaves a game with lots of surprises. CR's picket lines come into vogue as you need something to provide warning, there are a lot of approaches to be covered. You get an inkling about why some obsolete tactics were used at the start of the Big war.

+1 [:)]