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build up/break down

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:19 pm
by 88mmshock
I'm not sure I'm using the build up/break (b hotkey) down function correctly. I was following the tutorial and I can's see any changes after I select the units and hit b. Do I have to stack the 3 regiments in the same hex, make sure all are selected and then hit b in order to make a division?

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:05 pm
by Shupov
Make sure they are all of the same type (e.g. Infantry) and are assigned to the same HQ.

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:07 pm
by 88mmshock
Thanks. I'll have to make sure I'm doing that.

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:23 am
by piotrmx
What regemints do you use. From the same div?

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:24 pm
by 88mmshock
Ok I got it to work for me. Thanks for the tips. I used 3 rifle divisions to form a rifle corps. My next quest is to find out if a regular rifle division and a guards rifle div. can be built up to a rifle corp. All units in this scenario are from the same HQ. I also wonder if ski regiments and mountain regiments can be combined with regular reg. if they are all rifle regiments.

I found it very helpful to use merge command to add all those "bits and pieces" regiments and brigades to a larger unit, making one stronger unit. It's quite valuable for a beginner to play this simple scenario (Valikyie Luki)several times over. Very good for experimenting and learning to use the functions. I'm doing much better on this run through.

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:32 pm
by Denniss
2x Guard + 1x non-guard. one of them may be a brigade

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:55 pm
by 88mmshock
ORIGINAL: Denniss

2x Guard + 1x non-guard. one of them may be a brigade
Perfect, thanks[:)]

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:45 pm
by Seminole
Ok I got it to work for me. Thanks for the tips. I used 3 rifle divisions to form a rifle corps. My next quest is to find out if a regular rifle division and a guards rifle div. can be built up to a rifle corp. All units in this scenario are from the same HQ. I also wonder if ski regiments and mountain regiments can be combined with regular reg. if they are all rifle regiments.

Here are the different unit build-up / breakdown rules:

7.5.3.1. Soviet Buildup and Breakdown Availability

The Soviet ability to buildup or breakdown units is determined by date and type of unit as follows:

Rifle Division (22 June 41): Two or more rifle brigades can buildup into a rifle division. Note that Soviet rifle divisions may not breakdown into brigades. Naval brigades cannot buildup into divisions. See below for buildup of airborne brigades.

Cavalry Corps (December 41): Three cavalry divisions can buildup into a cavalry corps. A cavalry corps can be broken down into three cavalry divisions.

Tank Corps (April 42): Three tank brigades can buildup into a tank corps. A tank corps may be broken down into three tank brigades (designated 1/2/3), but may only be built up again if all three are in the same hex (7.5.3.2).

Guards Rifle Division (March 1942): Three Airborne Brigades can buildup into a rifle division, which will automatically be given Guards status. Airborne brigades may not buildup with any other type of unit.

Rifle Corps (June 42): Three rifle divisions or two rifle divisions and one rifle brigade can buildup into a rifle corps. A rifle corps may be broken down into three rifle divisions (7.5.3.3).

Mechanized Corps (September 42): Three mechanized or motorized brigades can buildup into a mechanized corps. A mechanized corps may be broken down into three mechanized brigades (designated 1/2/3), but may only be built up again if all three are in the same hex (7.5.3.2).

Guards Airborne Division (January 1943): Three airborne brigades can buildup into an airborne division, which will automatically be given Guards status. Airborne brigades may not buildup with any other type of unit.

v1.03 Beta 2 - January 21, 2011
Naval Rifle Brigades may be used to create Rifle Corps.
Restricted Soviet Rifle brigades so they can't merge into Rifle Divisions prior to May-1942.

v1.06.22 - November 29, 2012
Heavy Tank Brigades may not be used to form Soviet Corps.

RE: build up/break down

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:46 pm
by 88mmshock
Very helpful, thanks Seminole.