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No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:56 pm
by MagicMissile
Upgraded to 1.09. I set up the example I wrote about in my 2 question thread.
I started the 1942 scenario and then I set up 5 convoys UK-US UK-Canada UK-Soviet US-UK US-Soviet I moved out 1 cv and 2 dds that start in Scapa Flow.
2 observations. The subs only made 4 attacks not 5. Not sure why. Also the CV and DDs did not add any subhunter bonus in any of the attacks anyone know why?
/MM

RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:51 pm
by Marco70
I think the UK-Soviet convoy don‘t ship through the north atlantic. So for me it seems that 4 attacks in the field 107,77 are right.
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:07 pm
by MagicMissile
I was thinking that too [:)]. But looking on the map it seems to me all the arctic convoys need to pass a few hexes of North Atlantic.
/MM
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:57 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Let me know the version. It should be 1.00.091
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:50 pm
by MagicMissile
Yes the latest 1,00,901
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:53 am
by AlvaroSousa
I know we tested this. Is this a 1942 scenario?
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:21 am
by MagicMissile
Yes I started a hotseat in 1942 scenario.
/MM
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:59 am
by AlvaroSousa
If it is the 1st turn then no. Production is calculated at the end of a player's turn for the next player.
In this case the UK hasn't moved.
Yes it sucks, it's not fair, you don't have escorts out there. But pursuit was added after the fact.
So I have to modify the scenarios to allow pre existing escorts in lane.
You also need escorts in the lane for it to work. Subhunter doesn't work alone. It supports escorts.
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:32 pm
by Omnius
While you're improving scenarios please put all separate sub fleets in all scenarios in Raider mode to help the AI and as a convenience to players so we have a little less mundane stuff to remember to change when beginning a new game.
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:34 pm
by AlvaroSousa
It automatically does that when raiding. Unless you tell me it isn't
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:13 pm
by kennonlightfoot
The 1939 scenario seems to implement all the rules but other scenarios don't necessarially include them. But the only one I know for sure is in the 1940 scenario the Netherlands can be invaded without triggering Belgium joining the Allies.
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:43 pm
by AlvaroSousa
ORIGINAL: kennonlightfoot
The 1939 scenario seems to implement all the rules but other scenarios don't necessarially include them. But the only one I know for sure is in the 1940 scenario the Netherlands can be invaded without triggering Belgium joining the Allies.
Yea because it's 1940. Axis would be foolish not to invade both.
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:44 pm
by AlvaroSousa
I checked the sub hunter on some test games. It is working just the text is missing from hotseat and A.I. games.
Will fix in next patch and the beta.
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:15 pm
by MagicMissile
Unfortunately I am pretty sure I gave the allies one turn to set up escorts but I will try again to make sure.
/MM
RE: No Subhunter bonus
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:24 pm
by kennonlightfoot
Yea because it's 1940. Axis would be foolish not to invade both.
I figured that, but the point was that some rules are tied to scenarios and not to the game engine in general.
In earlier versions there were a number of rules that only showed up in the 39 scenario but not the later ones that had nothing to do with invasion of neutrals.