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Hello, I am playing a new PBEM game against Gaming with the Colonel, You can find both sides on youtube, links are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQGpwT ... 62FSMKCH4b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZolY2qB ... =1&t=1059s

Excellent news Epekepe I will be watching that

Good videos, appreciate your time. Some more info what is going on in your head would be usefull I think. Your opponent talks a lot about his plan etc. Maybe write some text from time to time, esp concerning tech choices?
It's 1940 only, but your position seems favourable already, though Axis i Axis, you never know what happens in Russia.

Not sure if you read some other recent threads, but Logistics also boosts HQ supply levels.

Thanks to everyone watching these!

ORIGINAL: Marcinos1985

Good videos, appreciate your time. Some more info what is going on in your head would be usefull I think. Your opponent talks a lot about his plan etc. Maybe write some text from time to time, esp concerning tech choices?
It's 1940 only, but your position seems favourable already, though Axis i Axis, you never know what happens in Russia.

That would be good to do. We are about 10 turns ahead and i just have many games ongoing right now, it's hard to remember what i have done in this one[:)].
Is there some details about techs or else, that you want to know?

Checked out both channels and watching....nice to see some new pvp play on YouTube. [8D]

That would be good to do. We are about 10 turns ahead and i just have many games ongoing right now, it's hard to remember what i have done in this one.
Is there some details about techs or else, that you want to know?

Well in fact I have plenty of questions, perhaps too many for a single post. I like to read/hear other players reasoning, very enlightening sometimes.

But for now, I have one important question, about your USSR tech. You decided to keep Fighters tech. Why?

ORIGINAL: Marcinos1985



But for now, I have one important question, about your USSR tech. You decided to keep Fighters tech. Why?

Usually i don't, but USSR gets many fighters and i wanted to see how much impact they will have.

ORIGINAL: Epekepe

Usually i don't, but USSR gets many fighters and i wanted to see how much impact they will have.

They will build XP for German fighters [:)] I am little behind in your series, did you pick Aerial Warfare later on? Without this, Luftwaffe will still reign freely.

Though probably your humble opponent will not launch Barbarossa on time. Skill gap is noticable. But series itself is good to watch, thank you for the effort.

ORIGINAL: Marcinos1985

But for now, I have one important question, about your USSR tech. You decided to keep Fighters tech. Why?

warspite1

Are you saying you don't research advanced fighters for the Soviets?

Are you saying you don't research advanced fighters for the Soviets?

Exactly that. There are several reasons:
1. Unless for some reason Axis stops investing in AF tech, they will be always 1 level ahead of you. With some bad luck on USSR part, even two. And 1 level more is already a big difference. Combine it with good GER HQ's and high morale and Soviet fighters are on lost position for most of the War.
2. You could mitigate it somehow if Russia had plenty of fighters (numerical superiority, as IRL). But they only get 3 if I remember correctly. At the same time, Germany has 6 (3 starting, 1 from DAK, 1 from Finland and Romania respectively). You will get outdamaged easily and quickly.
3. In order to make it work, you also need Aerial Warfare tech, to enable 2 air missions per turn. So you have to spend additional 100 MPP's, and USSR doesn't have enough in the first place.
4. Reparing aircraft is expensive, and especially in the beginning USSR will have to rebuy land units. Your fighters will be depleted for most of the time.

Going for AntiAir route is preferable, because:
1. It's a cheaper tech (125 MPP)
2. You can double chit it, so closing tech gap versus GER bombers is actually possible.
3. Majority of your units can benefit from this tech and defend themselves somehow, especially with AA2.
4. You can also upgrade forts, cities etc. granting even more defense against bombers.
5. USSR can buy 6 AA units. Well placed they will make Luftwaffe's life a lot tougher. And they are cheap.

I really wish there were more options open for USSR in air context, but for now it's not the case. Russia is under tremendous pressure in this game in 1942 especially, unless Axis player diverted his forces elsewhere. There's no space to fool around.

Edit:Corrected number of starting GER fighters.

ORIGINAL: Marcinos1985

ORIGINAL: Epekepe

Usually i don't, but USSR gets many fighters and i wanted to see how much impact they will have.

They will build XP for German fighters [:)] I am little behind in your series, did you pick Aerial Warfare later on? Without this, Luftwaffe will still reign freely.

I did the aerial warfare at some point. It's interesting to see how this works. But it's like you wrote, AA is much better choice for Soviets.

ORIGINAL: Marcinos1985

Are you saying you don't research advanced fighters for the Soviets?

Exactly that. There are several reasons:
1. Unless for some reason Axis stops investing in AF tech, they will be always 1 level ahead of you. With some bad luck on USSR part, even two. And 1 level more is already a big difference. Combine it with good GER HQ's and high morale and Soviet fighters are on lost position for most of the War.
2. You could mitigate it somehow if Russia had plenty of fighters (numerical superiority, as IRL). But they only get 3 if I remember correctly. At the same time, Germany has 5 (2 starting, 1 form DAK, 1 from Finland and Romania respectively). You will get outdamaged easily and quickly.
3. In order to make it work, you also need Aerial Warfare tech, to enable 2 air missions per turn. So you have to spend additional 100 MPP's, and USSR doesn't have enough in the first place.
4. Reparing aircraft is expensive, and especially in the beginning USSR will have to rebuy land units. Your fighters will be depleted for most of the time.

Going for AntiAir route is preferable, because:
1. It's a cheaper tech (125 MPP)
2. You can double chit it, so closing tech gap versus GER bombers is actually possible.
3. Majority of your units can benefit from this tech and defend themselves somehow, especially with AA2.
4. You can also upgrade forts, cities etc. granting even more defense against bombers.
5. USSR can buy 6 AA units. Well placed they will make Luftwaffe's life a lot tougher. And they are cheap.

I really wish there were more options open for USSR in air context, but for now it's not the case. Russia is under tremendous pressure in this game in 1942 especially, unless Axis player diverted his forces elsewhere. There's no space to fool around.

warspite1

Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to expand on your thoughts so thoroughly. Lots more to this than meets the eye.

Just found these, thanks, thats my viewing sorted till I catch up.