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Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:45 am
by EarlyDoors
So i started a single player game with me as Allies on 1.9

In April 1940, Axis had captured Netherlands and Belgium. Italy prepared for War. Next turn I saw the attached message. Italy Mobilizes in Response to Allied Invasion Preparations with a Dutch flag background.

The following turn DEI jumps to 99% mobilization in favour of Japan

There has been no diplomacy

I didn't even have many ships within range of Syracuse (maybe 5?)

looks wrong to me

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RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:06 am
by aquavita
In my single game 1.09 as Axis, DEI has joined Japan, its july 41. No diplomacy.

The message EarlyDoors refers too has been shown serveral times. Weird.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:57 pm
by BillRunacre
I've just corrected the scripts as they were incorrectly pointing to mobilize the Dutch East Indies rather than Italy.

I can only apologise as I do not know why they were doing so.

However, the conditions for the scripts to fire (see below) require there to either be 2 Allied Amphibious units within 20 hexes of Syracuse Port, or 7 or more Allied naval units (of all types including all types of Transport) within 12 hexes of Syracuse Port. I cannot see how the script could have fired unless one or other of the conditions was met?

; 2 Allied Amphibious units within 20 hexes of Syracuse Port
#CONDITION_POSITION= 104,60 [20,20] [2,2] [2] [0] <47,48>
; 7 or more Allied naval units within 12 hexes of Syracuse Port
#CONDITION_POSITION= 104,60 [12,12] [7,7] [2] [0]

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
by aquavita
I dont now but i belive that there were allied naval units present in the mediterranean. Played with hidden units.

Question: Will there be posted a patch with the corrected scripts?

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:33 pm
by havoc1371
Hell, leave it. I'd rather have the Dutch East Indies declare war than Italy because some gamey Allied player harasses Italy to make it declare war to avoid penalties.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:51 pm
by Christolos
ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

I've just corrected the scripts as they were incorrectly pointing to mobilize the Dutch East Indies rather than Italy.

I can only apologise as I do not know why they were doing so.

However, the conditions for the scripts to fire (see below) require there to either be 2 Allied Amphibious units within 20 hexes of Syracuse Port, or 7 or more Allied naval units (of all types including all types of Transport) within 12 hexes of Syracuse Port. I cannot see how the script could have fired unless one or other of the conditions was met?

; 2 Allied Amphibious units within 20 hexes of Syracuse Port
#CONDITION_POSITION= 104,60 [20,20] [2,2] [2] [0] <47,48>
; 7 or more Allied naval units within 12 hexes of Syracuse Port
#CONDITION_POSITION= 104,60 [12,12] [7,7] [2] [0]
So this will be corrected in the next patch then?

C

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:00 am
by BillRunacre
Yes, the script mobilizing the DEI has been corrected and hopefully it will be released in an update very soon.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:24 am
by havoc1371
It seems the script that should trigger Italy early is triggering DEI and it doesn't matter if Italy has declared war or not. I just had it happen. So if Allied units come within so many hexes of Italian ports, it triggers DEI to declare war, even if Italy is already at war.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:53 pm
by USGrant1962
ORIGINAL: havoc1371

It seems the script that should trigger Italy early is triggering DEI and it doesn't matter if Italy has declared war or not. I just had it happen. So if Allied units come within so many hexes of Italian ports, it triggers DEI to declare war, even if Italy is already at war.

Yup, I had been at war with Italy for half a year when the Italy mobilization popups started [&:]. The problem is more than just pointing at DEI instead of Italy for DOW.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:27 pm
by BillRunacre
ORIGINAL: USGrant1962
ORIGINAL: havoc1371

It seems the script that should trigger Italy early is triggering DEI and it doesn't matter if Italy has declared war or not. I just had it happen. So if Allied units come within so many hexes of Italian ports, it triggers DEI to declare war, even if Italy is already at war.

Yup, I had been at war with Italy for half a year when the Italy mobilization popups started [&:]. The problem is more than just pointing at DEI instead of Italy for DOW.

The message mentions Italy, but mobilizes the Dutch East Indies instead.

The message is actually correct to mention Italy, and it was just the country it mobilized that needed to be changed.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:32 am
by USGrant1962
ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

ORIGINAL: USGrant1962
ORIGINAL: havoc1371

It seems the script that should trigger Italy early is triggering DEI and it doesn't matter if Italy has declared war or not. I just had it happen. So if Allied units come within so many hexes of Italian ports, it triggers DEI to declare war, even if Italy is already at war.

Yup, I had been at war with Italy for half a year when the Italy mobilization popups started [&:]. The problem is more than just pointing at DEI instead of Italy for DOW.

The message mentions Italy, but mobilizes the Dutch East Indies instead.

The message is actually correct to mention Italy, and it was just the country it mobilized that needed to be changed.

What havoc and I are saying is there appears to be two issues - pointing at the wrong country is one. But it is firing after Italy is already at war as well. Might be the same glitch

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:40 pm
by BillRunacre
It's the same glitch, because it is mobilizing the DEI due to the triggers that should have been mobilizing Italy.

The text is correct, it's just the country mobilized that is wrong, and in its corrected format it only fires when Italy isn't yet in the war.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:07 pm
by BillRunacre
Just to add that the script fires if there are either 2 Allied Amphibious units within 20 hexes of Syracuse Port or 7 or more Allied naval units (including any type of transport) within 12 hexes of Syracuse Port.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:43 pm
by Jackmck
This happened to me too- today. Might have ruined a game but we'll see. As allied player, I deliberately kept the Allied naval away from Italy until it was at war- then they moved in to blockade N Africa but DEI came in the war the following turn.
Please fix soon.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:00 pm
by EarlyDoors
I'm keeping the Uk & French Navy out of the central mediterranean until after Japanese invade the DEI - that should stop it triggering ( i hope)

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:44 pm
by PJL1973
I think the event should be left as it is. It's proving far more effective as a deterrent to triggering early Italian entry and defeat by the Allies than the intended event. :D

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:34 am
by Hubert Cater
Apologies for the delay everyone, good news is the patch is now ready on our end and will be submitted for processing next week.

Ideally it will be released shortly thereafter if all goes well.

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:10 am
by boudi
Guess the fix will not work for the current games?

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:48 am
by Hubert Cater
Hi Boudi,

Unfortunately no, you'll have to start a new game with the new patch for this particular fix... but the good news is it is in the processing queue so hopefully not too long now before it is released.

Hubert

RE: Italy mobiliization and the DEI

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:50 am
by boudi
Thanks Hubert.