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Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:58 pm
by Peleliu
I resized the Jake squadron on the Nisshin to size 9, but I can't divide it into 3 sub-units. The Petes divide just fine at size 9. I haven't tried the Mizuho yet since it is at sea and , I thought there might be a similar issue since they are the same size. Any idea why or what is going on? Any help or explanations appreciated.

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:06 pm
by RangerJoe
Are there any fragments or detachments? A picture of the unit will explain a lot.

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:28 pm
by Peleliu
I attached the image to the first post.

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:49 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Peleliu

I attached the image to the first post.

If you check the box where the "Embed picture in post" is, then the picture shows up like this:


Image

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:55 pm
by btd64
I don't think he has enough posts for that yet....GP

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:30 pm
by dcpollay
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Peleliu

I attached the image to the first post.

If you check the box where the "Embed picture in post" is, then the picture shows up like this:


Image
Just to be clear....Is this Jake or Pete???

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:33 pm
by Alpha77
If the float unit is from a surface ship eg. a CA or BB you can´t divide it, also not when resized.

As CS count as surface ship not "CV" class (CS means scout cruiser) it is possible dividing it is not allowed.

Edit, seems this is correct, in my game eg. Chiyoda1 has also Jakes and cannot be divided.


RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:37 pm
by Ambassador
The ability to split a squadron is set in the editor, and AFAIK won’t change when you resize the unit.

@dcpollay : with two torpedoes, this is either Mavis or Catalina.[;)]

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:33 pm
by ITAKLinus
ORIGINAL: Ambassador

The ability to split a squadron is set in the editor, and AFAIK won’t change when you resize the unit.

@dcpollay : with two torpedoes, this is either Mavis or Catalina.[;)]


Don't forget of Emily... [:D]

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:11 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: dcpollay

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Peleliu

I attached the image to the first post.

If you check the box where the "Embed picture in post" is, then the picture shows up like this:


Image
Just to be clear....Is this Jake or Pete???

This is an "Elizabeth" model . . . [:'(]

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:21 pm
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: dcpollay
Just to be clear....Is this Jake or Pete???
Whatever it is, I don't want it to be divided into 3 sub-units

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:15 pm
by Peleliu
I think the comment regarding surface ship float plane resizing is probably spot on. Odd though that the Petes can be split, but the Jakes can't.

Where do people generally find air groups to put on AVs and CVs that have no imbedded squadrons?

Following on with the lovely posted artwork, let's see some pics of Betty, Judy, Sonia, Babs, Sally, Judy, and Val to round out the collection...

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:21 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Peleliu

I think the comment regarding surface ship float plane resizing is probably spot on. Odd though that the Petes can be split, but the Jakes can't.

Where do people generally find air groups to put on AVs and CVs that have no imbedded squadrons?

Following on with the lovely posted artwork, let's see some pics of Betty, Judy, Sonia, Babs, Sally, Judy, and Val to round out the collection...

The CS that convert to CVLs, if you leave the float plane units on them, they will convert as well according to my understanding.

The AVs can be parked at a base and provide the necessary support for float planes and flying boats.

As far as more pictures, start at the first post on this highly intellectual thread:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3083586

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:32 pm
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Peleliu
Where do people generally find air groups to put on AVs and CVs that have no imbedded squadrons?
Most of the groups can be resized, some of the groups can be split. I never had problems with filling in ships

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:37 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Peleliu
Where do people generally find air groups to put on AVs and CVs that have no imbedded squadrons?
Most of the groups can be resized, some of the groups can be split. I never had problems with filling in ships

Not to mention buying back air units from ships that sink . . .

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:43 pm
by jdsrae
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

The CS that convert to CVLs, if you leave the float plane units on them, they will convert as well according to my understanding.

That only works for the 2x Chitose class Joe.
Mizuho and Nisshin will need air units that start as land based to be assigned to them.

If you want fighter units on CVEs you’ll need to issue Zeros to a land based unit and post them to the CVE.
You can upsize one fighter unit to size 81 on a big CV then split it into thirds to put 3x 27 fighters on 3x CVE.

For floatplanes, any subs that carry Glens that get themselves sunk can have the Glen det bought back.
I’ve used them to provide a FP det to AMC and LSD that don’t have their own.

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:03 am
by RangerJoe
The other two are upgrades, are they not? The two types are handled differently.

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:04 am
by rustysi
ORIGINAL: Peleliu

I resized the Jake squadron on the Nisshin to size 9, but I can't divide it into 3 sub-units. The Petes divide just fine at size 9. I haven't tried the Mizuho yet since it is at sea and , I thought there might be a similar issue since they are the same size. Any idea why or what is going on? Any help or explanations appreciated.

Its simply that not all units may divide.

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:47 pm
by Alpha77
I am converting 2 of the CS to CVLs. I guess all 4 would have been better - much more usefull but now too late.

Btw. I can not find my NISSHIN air units anywhere, they did not withdraw I believe. Were they renamed at some point? Anyone knows [&:]

RE: Nisshin-2 Jakes

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:32 pm
by jdsrae
Nisshin units do rename, to 9## something.
Same for most of the named AV floatplane units from memory.
If you check the editor that’ll show the name change.