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Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:59 pm
by stjeand
Anyone ever seen this?

I have a screen shot. I tested and it seems to happen every 3 or 4 games when I tried to reproduce it.

A unit can move next to the cavalry for 1 point rather than the normal 3. I had never noticed it until recently. Even thought it might be a display bug...but validated that it uses one movement point.

I have the screen shot on my phone but just wondering if anyone has seen this.


RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:47 pm
by ncc1701e
Please post your screenshot.

RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:47 pm
by stjeand
Here is the pic
Any unit next can move there for 1.

If I restart the game odds are it will be 4 movement for that unit to move there.

Like I said...maybe 1 out of 4 times I see that.
Not noticed it in PBEM...but that does not mean it does not occur.

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RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:45 pm
by stjeand
Okay I can reproduce this over and over now...

Start the 39 campaign.

Check movement costs of any unit on the Polish boarder that will move into a ZOC in Poland in the adjacent hex. You will see it costs 3 movement.

NOW move the unit in Berlin by rail west...not sure how far...I moved to Hanover and once to the Danish boarder.

Now go check any unit that can move into a ZOC in an adjacent hex that is on the Polish boarder. You will see it is now 1 for the first ZOC entry.
IF you move any other unit anywhere...it will default back to normal.


I have validated this on the new release.

Honestly I think the first move should not cost ZOC since surprise...but I don't think that is how it is how it was written.

RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:24 pm
by ncc1701e
Yep I reproduce now. Initially the cost is 4.

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RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:25 pm
by ncc1701e
Doing a rail move to Hanover.

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RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:25 pm
by ncc1701e
Now the cost is 2. Good catch!

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RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:26 pm
by ncc1701e
This is with the latest beta and now the official patch.

RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:42 pm
by stjeand
Don't tell the Allies.

I actually tried this with attacking the Netherlands...did not seem to work but only tried once... Only appears to work in Poland.

RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:58 pm
by AlvaroSousa
That is really weird. Now I have to investigate

RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:02 am
by Franciscus
Yep reproducible.

More details.

- if we undo the first unit move (example, Berlim to Hannover), the ZOC cost is correct.

- the issue seems to just occur with the polish cavalry unit. The ZOC cost associated with the Polish cracow army just to the southeast is not altered...

RE: Poland no ZOC next to cavalry for 1 unit

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:12 am
by stjeand
Check the Polish armies in the North..I could swear one or two of them lost their ZOC when this happened.
I will check again when I have time