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Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:40 am
by HansBolter
Just curious if anyone has ever thought, or attempted to build every Dot base on the map to a minimum level one port or airfield?

I'm playing The Long Road to Tokyo, which lasts till '48. I'm thinking I might have time to pull it off. Around March of '42 I got the idea to commit to the attempt to build up every last Dot base on the map before the game ends.

Update to follow in a few months of real time.


RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:54 am
by Q-Ball
US probably has the engineering units to pull it off (soooo many Construction units!), but that's alot of clicking! Good luck with that!

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:10 pm
by Dan1977
OK, but that would be "long road" to Tokyo. I spend a lot of time on planning what my engineers are doing. I don't want them idle, but I prefer to use them at the most important places. I like to have places that my ships can rearm at, in as many places as possible, so that you can keep your ships fighting, versus traveling across the ocean in search of ammo. I guess you will need to keep them working until 1948. So I guess that would help with post-war economic recovery. [:)]

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:59 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Dan1977

OK, but that would be "long road" to Tokyo. I spend a lot of time on planning what my engineers are doing. I don't want them idle, but I prefer to use them at the most important places. I like to have places that my ships can rearm at, in as many places as possible, so that you can keep your ships fighting, versus traveling across the ocean in search of ammo. I guess you will need to keep them working until 1948. So I guess that would help with post-war economic recovery. [:)]
I think Hans is not thinking about war aims here, but just seeing how far the engineering power will go (with symbols at every former dot base to show it is no longer so). I have thought about that but don't have the patience for it. I have excess engineers building bases that have a good VP multiplier even though I don't need the VPs nor high level bases in that area. But I can leave them there for months without having to arrange an amphib TF to transfer them to another base as soon as they build a level! [:)]

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:53 pm
by RangerJoe
Just use the LSTs, LSMs, and LCIs to move the engineers with supplies as are needed to where they are needed.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:15 pm
by Dan1977
To BBfanboy,
Yes, I understand that Hans would do that for fun, releasing the inner Construction Engineer in him. In a similar vein, I have modded a scenario to add a US Heavy Construction Brigade, with a very large numbers of Engineers & Engineer Vehicles. Just to see what it could accomplish. I even created a Construction Engineer as the Leader, using a historical civilian Engineer personality. So I get it.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:35 pm
by jdsrae
Random dot base, somewhere in SE Pacific Area

Sapper Bloggs: what are we building this airstrip for again?
Corporal Plant: the Generals want to see little flags on their maps, and the little flag doesn’t appear until we finish this fighter strip
Sapper Bloggs: fair enough, let’s take our time cos the fishing here is pretty good

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:19 pm
by HansBolter
Guys I'm probably on something like my 30th or maybe even my 40th game...who really keeps count.

At this point I'm doing things just for entertainment and the novelty of doing something different.

And, yea, to see the little flags cover the map. [:D][:D][:D]

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:21 pm
by Ian R
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Just curious if anyone has ever thought, or attempted to build every Dot base on the map to a minimum level one port or airfield?

I'm playing The Long Road to Tokyo, which lasts till '48. I'm thinking I might have time to pull it off. Around March of '42 I got the idea to commit to the attempt to build up every last Dot base on the map before the game ends.

Update to follow in a few months of real time.


I gave it a shot - I had amphib TFs using old xAPs and xAKs shuttling CBs and construction regiments/brigades around in "hit squads". Fed supplies by amphib TFS hauling stuff from older 'hub' bases that the war had left behind. I also had the US 8th airforce and Tiger Force engineers working backwards from Korea into Manchuria, along with Chinese and Soviet infantry units - there are a lot of points available there.

I think it can be done - particularly if by 1945 you are dropping large supply TFs straight into Shanghai, and Hongkong -Canton.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:21 pm
by HansBolter
Off to a roaring start.

The Dalai Lama has air service![8D]

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RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:34 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Off to a roaring start.

The Dalai Lama has air service![8D]

Image

At this time, he would be in Lhasa, Tibet.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:21 pm
by Ian R
Details, details.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:36 am
by LeeChard
We need engineer units that can complete those 'Rails to Nowhere' [:D]

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:44 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: LeeChard

We need engineer units that can complete those 'Rails to Nowhere' [:D]
And roads. Some technically proficient players figured out a way to do this using a hex editor. They limited themselves to one segment (center of hex to edge of hex) per month for each road and rail. Then they modded the map section artwork to match. Both players had to exchange the files with their changes so they could both update their mod on the same turn. I think they were doing the RHS mod. So technically it was hacking the game code - but just for that specific purpose and not destroying the game in the process.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:53 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Off to a roaring start.

The Dalai Lama has air service![8D]

Image

At this time, he would be in Lhasa, Tibet.

IIRC there are no bases, even dot ones, in Tibet so Katmandu is as close as he is gonna get to air service at his doorstep. [;)]

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:33 pm
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: Dan1977

To BBfanboy,
Yes, I understand that Hans would do that for fun, releasing the inner Construction Engineer in him. In a similar vein, I have modded a scenario to add a US Heavy Construction Brigade, with a very large numbers of Engineers & Engineer Vehicles. Just to see what it could accomplish. I even created a Construction Engineer as the Leader, using a historical civilian Engineer personality. So I get it.

At least in DaBabes there are some very big US construction units. To add, they are bit pain in butt to transport where one might need them.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:47 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Off to a roaring start.

The Dalai Lama has air service![8D]

Image

At this time, he would be in Lhasa, Tibet.

IIRC there are no bases, even dot ones, in Tibet so Katmandu is as close as he is gonna get to air service at his doorstep. [;)]

Any passengers flying to Katmandu, Nepal, then going to Lhasa, Tibet, would have to cross the Himalayas. It would probably be easier to fly into China somewhere.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:21 pm
by Ian R
They might get lost and end up at Xianggelila.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:03 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Ian R

They might get lost and end up at Xianggelila.


Or worse, up the Wasu.

RE: Dot bases

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:17 am
by Ian R
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Ian R

They might get lost and end up at Xianggelila.


Or worse, up the Wasu.
Xianggelila

At least you can fly a strike from Xianggelila. [8D]