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Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:57 pm
by Moltrey
Hey all:
I put together a revised AE Port Logistics Chart after going through the one I had downloaded. While not really wrong, it had a mislabeled column and not much in the way of supporting notes to explain details.
So I created the following in Excel.
Enjoy!
Change Log: Version 4 uploaded, pic and file for download.
Another pass at chart using latest format.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:38 pm
by BBfanboy
Nice Chart Moltrey!
One additional point you could add. "NS squads do not help with fuel handling rates."
Oh, and one more - "If the port has an SPS of 0, NS squads do not help with any loading or unloading, even if the port is built."
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:40 pm
by Moltrey
If anyone really needs an Excel version instead of PDF, let me know here or PM me and I can upload.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:45 pm
by Moltrey
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Nice Chart Moltrey!
One additional point you could add. "NS squads do not help with fuel handling rates."
I felt the Asterisk * covered this w/o the need for additional text (via the Cargo Handling note).
Oh, and one more - "If the port has an SPS of 0, NS squads do not help with any loading or unloading, even if the port is built."
Hmmm. I will think on how to best include that one. Thanks!
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:51 pm
by RangerJoe
How about:
NS squads do not help for any purpose at any port with a SPS of (0).
or
NS does not help for any purpose at any port with a SPS of (0).
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:37 pm
by Moltrey
Does that work for you guys? All files updated.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:05 pm
by RangerJoe
Yes, that works. Thank you.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:23 pm
by Moltrey
The Port Logistics Chart has been updated to version 3. Changes to readability, word choice and spelling error corrected.
To the forum Moderators, can we possibly get this stickied?
Thanks.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:23 pm
by SuluSea
Very nice chart, thanks for the work put into it.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 6:42 pm
by Moltrey
ORIGINAL: SuluSea
Very nice chart, thanks for the work put into it.
Sure thing Sulu, my time to give back to the community since I am laid up at home (nothing serious btw, work inj.)
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:26 am
by NigelKentarus
I added it as a sheet to Kull's excellent spreadsheet. It's a nice handy reference.
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:13 pm
by Disco Duck
Thanks
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:31 am
by LGKMAS
I am just a bit confused by the table, which I do accept shows far more than I have ever thought about. And I am now in the happy situation that I find I have more Cargo and Tpt ships than I thought possible six months previous. So now I am looking at how to maximise these assets.
Say I have a Level 6 Port. So that means the largest ship I can dock is 48000 tons and the Largest amount of ships tonnage I can dock of all variations and combinations is 84,000 tons. Fine, That I am happy with. Correct?
Now we come to what confuses me.
per 12 Hr game phase, of which there are two(?), that port can unload 700 tps and 600 cargo, thus 1400 troops and 1200 cargo per day. I will leave aside the Resources/Fuel and Oil at the moment.
The next column shows Cargo handling.
Now it says the Port can handle 54600 tons of cargo a day?
Now, my first Impression was WTF!
Then I thought it may mean that a ship can unload 700 tps/600 cargo per day of the ships docked?
So if I have a number of low load ships, say 500Tps/700 cargo then they may not add up to the 84,000 tons when docked but they can all work up to the 54,600 tons/day?
And if I have a number of high load ships, say eight, each say 7000 tons cargo, for a total of 56000 tons cargo in the TF, with each only able to unload 1200 cargo/day (600 times two phases) then they can only unload 8 x 1200 = 9,600 tons/day. So it will take about 5 days to unload the TF?
Am I making a mistake here?
It all points to tailoring your TF to match your destination, which I am happy with, well okay, just not ecstatic as it does mean more work on TF composition, which I can accept as part and parcel of the whole logistics system.
The more you progress, the more you realise you don't know!
RE: Revised AE Port Logistics Chart
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:45 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: LGKMAS
I am just a bit confused by the table, which I do accept shows far more than I have ever thought about. And I am now in the happy situation that I find I have more Cargo and Tpt ships than I thought possible six months previous. So now I am looking at how to maximise these assets.
Say I have a Level 6 Port. So that means the largest ship I can dock is 48000 tons and the Largest amount of ships tonnage I can dock of all variations and combinations is 84,000 tons. Fine, That I am happy with. Correct?
Now we come to what confuses me.
per 12 Hr game phase, of which there are two(?), that port can unload 700 tps and 600 cargo, thus 1400 troops and 1200 cargo per day. I will leave aside the Resources/Fuel and Oil at the moment.
The next column shows Cargo handling.
Now it says the Port can handle 54600 tons of cargo a day?
Now, my first Impression was WTF!
Then I thought it may mean that a ship can unload 700 tps/600 cargo per day of the ships docked?
So if I have a number of low load ships, say 500Tps/700 cargo then they may not add up to the 84,000 tons when docked but they can all work up to the 54,600 tons/day?
And if I have a number of high load ships, say eight, each say 7000 tons cargo, for a total of 56000 tons cargo in the TF, with each only able to unload 1200 cargo/day (600 times two phases) then they can only unload 8 x 1200 = 9,600 tons/day. So it will take about 5 days to unload the TF?
Am I making a mistake here?
It all points to tailoring your TF to match your destination, which I am happy with, well okay, just not ecstatic as it does mean more work on TF composition, which I can accept as part and parcel of the whole logistics system.
The more you progress, the more you realise you don't know!
There are limits per ship and limits per port. So if you have docked your 48,000 ton Evergreen container ship, you will reach its unload limit before you reach the port unload limit. If you have the load spread out as you show among a number of smaller ships, it is quite possible to reach the port total unload limit before you reach the limits for all of the ships you have docked.
It gets even more complicated with "troops" because some troops are associated with their equipment. Sure you can march off a whole lot of infantry squads, but motorized support, tanks and guns take time to unload and their operating troops stay on board until their respective equipment comes off. So trying to calculate exactly how fast you can unload a TF can be ... a challenge!
