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This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:34 am
by RogerJNeilson
Ok a game I began days after AE was released has finally drawn to a close. A bit annoying it simply finished but there you are. I will speak of more in other postings in the days ahead no doubt.

However the attached screenshot is an amalgam of what was sent to me this morning by my honourable Japanese opponent as the victory screen and the previous intel screen from my side for the previous day.

Can anyone explain to me the discrepancy between the Major Victory that has been showing as the result for weeks on my intel screen and the Marginal Victory on the final screen? Looking at the difference in the points I gained another few hundred in the last 24 hour period.

In one sense it is not very significant for me, the Japanese still holding some islands that are self governing prison camps, Kyushu and Shikoku and Tokyo, Yokohama and Maebashi with starving troops in ruins does not feel at all marginal to me..... in the same way that still holding Berlin, and the odd holdout would have meant the war in Europe was a marginal victory?

On the other hand is there some issue here about the victory conditions I have not understood?

Cheers

Roger

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RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:44 am
by Sardaukar
Did you use more than 2 atomic bombs?

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:49 am
by PaxMondo
I think a similar outcome was just discussed. You are 2:1 on Sept 1, 1945 ...

It was major until September 1, 1945, then it dropped a level on that day ...

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:52 am
by RogerJNeilson
Aha, no I did not use any A bombs at all, I landed and took real estate. My A bomb unit was tucked away in northern Korea doing nothing.

Ah so maybe that's the answer, someone said I had to do this one day earlier...... I didn't get the memo.

Makes sense in gameplay terms.


Roger

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:54 am
by PaxMondo
Correct, from gameplay for IJ it is all about survival ... if they can exceed history then they get a bonus. They still lose, just not as badly. [:D]

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:57 am
by Alfred
Read my posts in this thread.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4891701&mpage=1&key=auto&#4891708

Unless the Allied player gets an auto victory before 1 September 1945, they will never achieve a Decisive Victory.

Alfred


Edit:

PS. Was this the game involving Flashman? If so, I shudder at the thought how Valentina will react to the outcome.

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:59 am
by RogerJNeilson
I 'knew' you would have the answer Alfred. Thank you.

The Emperor's empire at the rising of the sun on the 1st September.......


Roger

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RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:01 am
by RogerJNeilson
ORIGINAL: Alfred

Read my posts in this thread.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4891701&mpage=1&key=auto�

Unless the Allied player gets an auto victory before 1 September 1945, they will never achieve a Decisive Victory.

Alfred


Edit:

PS. Was this the game involving Flashman? If so, I shudder at the thought how Valentina will react to the outcome.

Well you obviously missed the post about Valentina's vaporisation at Port Arthur...... unlike you......

The AAR will have a concluding post or two...

Roger

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:08 am
by Alfred
Ah, but wasn't she only a Colonel?  That would mean there would be someone to whom she reported to and that person in turn won't want to inform Uncle Joe they have ultimately been short changed.
 
Alfred 

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:23 am
by RogerJNeilson
You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors....

Roger

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:54 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson

You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors....

Roger
Aha! The old 'staged death' trope! Nice!
But how will Flashman handle having a clingy, dangerous paramour following his every move...? "The World wonders"![:D]

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:54 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RogerJNeilson

You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors....

Roger
Aha! The old 'staged death' trope! Nice!
But how will Flashman handle having a clingy, dangerous paramour following his every move...? "The World wonders"![:D]

Except that he dies in an "accident!" [;)]

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:04 pm
by RogerJNeilson
All suggestions welcome, but we shall see.... importantly we are playing until the bitter end... it could be he is drafted into a heroic assault on Tokyo......


Cheers

Roger

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:16 pm
by RogerJNeilson
For those interested, this is how close the game came to the Decisive when I wasn't actually recalling I had to get there by the end of August......

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RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:18 pm
by Alfred
You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:37 pm
by durnedwolf
ORIGINAL: Alfred

You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]


RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:02 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

ORIGINAL: Alfred

You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]

[:D][:D]
But didn't he get Agent 99 in the end?

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:05 pm
by Alfred
Needs the Cone of Silence as "it" is a state secret sought by Siefried.

Alfred

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:14 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Alfred

Needs the Cone of Silence as "it" is a state secret sought by Siefried.

Alfred
WHATTT!!!? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT!!!? THERE"S AN ECHO IN HERE!!!!

RE: This has me puzzled

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:26 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

ORIGINAL: Alfred

You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]

[:D][:D]
But didn't he get Agent 99 in the end?