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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 2:58 am
by Mr.Frag
82nd... that's a link to a store. No "fact" checking there unless you purchase the books.
Excuse me??? A link to a store??? You are implying I would post a link that lets people steal books???
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/policies.htm
You would be well suited to try reading before engaging your fingers at your keyboard. In case you need a refresher course try this link too.
http://www.foia.af.mil/
If by then you still have not figured it out, perhaps you would care to go directly to:
http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/oip.html
followed by:
http://www.defenselink.mil/privacy/
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:15 am
by mdiehl
Excuse me, 82nd, but that's where the link you posted in the other thread takes me.
Carl A. Spaatz and the Air War in Europe
Richard G. Davis, 1993
This richly detailed book traces the career of General Carl A. Spaatz, concentrating on his role as the senior U.S. Army Air Forces officer in the European theater during World War II. General Spaatz stood close to the central events of the conflict and became one of the outstanding American leaders in the victorious Allied coalition. Later, he became the first Chief of Staff of the independent U.S. Air Force.
808 pp., maps, charts, table, photos, index
GPO Stock No.008-070-00688-0
$52.00
This is one of the many items displayed on the web page for the given HTML. Many of these have little numerics at the end listing costs. After 15 minutes of waiting clicking on the link (it claimed to be downloading a PDF file) I gave up. I'm trying again now.
In the meantime, forgive me for concluding that the "$52.00" appended to the end was a solicitation for money. How could I have inferred such a thing?
As for "well suited," you'd be well suited to ... have a beer!

(My apologies, the PDF finally loaded.) Thanks for the links.
Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 4:25 am
by Mr.Frag
Yes, these documents can be purchased in hardcover form (or are available freely if in the US Military as a library checkout) or downloaded under the Freedom of Information Act.
These actual volumes comprise the ONLY entire record of the Air Force during the war. They make for facinating reading to say the least, and as they are directly from the source, they have a lot of detailed information including a lot of information between command level staff that is not really available anywhere else in the world.
There are some issues with accuracy that may be corrected in other sources, but nowhere will you find the actual guts down to this kind of level. It is pretty much a 7000 page history of the Air Force in WW II detailing who was who and why things happened the way they did.
Any works that are not the property of the government do not have the actual PDF form available as they would obviously be subject to the copyright holder. Sorry if I seemed grumpy, but your note caught me in a "bad day at the office" mood
As a side note, they have fantastic maps and recon photos of bases actually taken at the time which really help putting a scale on things that you do not get playing the game. Well worth the hours it takes to pull down the 7 book set of WWII.
Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 6:19 am
by denisonh
Thanks for the links Mr Frag.
A good job does deserve a beer, er, I mean a whiskey!:D
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2003 2:45 am
by byron13
Hmmm. Sounds interesting, but I missed the post that provided the link. Could you re-post it?
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:16 am
by Mr.Frag
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/te ... RLD_WAR_II
Word of warning, the link is VERY slow at times. I can only get it from work and the documents are huge!
The site contains the entire history of the United State Navy.