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HI,

I figure I will catch heck for posting this but I bought CMANO when it came out. And I bought CMO a year or two ago. I had a lot of trouble understanding the game so I deleted it. I still have my original download file for CMANO and I installed it thinking it was CMO. Wasted time there. I discovered it was the wrong one when I tried to install the latest patch for CMO that I got form your site at My pages.

Anyway , on my pages for CMO I am unable to locate a download for the main program. As a last resort I could get the Steam Key and install it through them but I want to put the latest Community Scenarios on and the Latest DB files and I didn't want to have to mess with Steam for that.

So, can anyone direct me to where I can download CMO executable? The only sites that are active are for Canada and Europe and I don't even know if that would be the CMO executable file. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Try here... https://www.matrixgames.com

If you bought it through Matrix, all of your games should be listed on My Page on the Matrix site. If you bought it through Steam, go there.

I followed that link but it just takes me to the store. So if I go from there to My Pages I find CMO. And it lists my serial key and under that , file downloads. I click on file downloads and I get this:

The middle one is the main program installer, it was updated to base version 1147.14 for a while. They have multiple mirror now so any Download button should provide you with the right file.

If you read the file names, Update, Installer, and DLC installer. You obviously start with the installer, then update, then, if needed DLC installer.

Thank you Mr Wood1. For the jab; the snide remark; the backhanded reply. "Obviously" if you are a miserable SOB without a life, then it is perfectly clear to you. Just teasing of course.

What made it unclear, to me , is the Update patch has a single download button, the manual has a single download button. The main installer has three download buttons and none for the USA. I thought something was missing. And I have no idea if I need he DLC installer or not. You have to admit, it isn't as simple as Warplan to install, especially with all the DB additions etc.

So, I downloaded it, slowest download since the stone age, but I digress. I installed it and the patch. Then I put in the two DB's and images and descriptions and the Community ScenarioPack 044. Took five hours.

I started CMO and it said loading please wait and three seconds later it crashed back to the desktop. OK.

The only hiccup during installation was when it got to the C+ part. It had a problem so I opened a log it has and it said something like "it couldn't install the 2017 version of C+ because it found a newer version installed"

Any ideas what might be the problem? A couple of years ago when I went through this it ran fine. Do I need to find the C+ app and uninstall it first before going through the painful process of installing CMO and the sundry files?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

If you have the newer version of C++ it and it says that when you try to install, you are fine. Just end the installer.

i wish it didn't take so long to extract and install this program because I can't do any experimenting or ZI will die of old age before I get this installed.

I just check and there are 16 versions of Microsoft Visual C++ installed , years 2005 through 2015. with multiples of each year. I have no idea of what the potential repercussions could be on other programs if I uninstalled each one and then tried installing CMO again.

I just did some research and it is a no-no to uninstall the reductant C++ versions. Computer could actually implode...

SO I guess I am stuck. It must be a different problem berceuse CMO installer won't install the C++ version it is lugging around because it finds the other versions.

You don't have to uninstall anything. If it says you have a newer version. Stop. Close the C++ installer. You are done.

Okay thanks I will try that. I just wanted to try and make sure because it takes so long to install this game. I have a very good gaming PC. It is all of the extractions that take forever. I am going to stop after I apply the latest patch and see if it runs before dicking around with all of the database installs. I'll see if that makes a difference.

As a best practice, I always run a game between any updates. Just to make sure. It can be a time saver. Obviously.

Thanks,

Okay, after initial install game runs. So I will put on the update and the hotfix.

After those files is where I start getting confused and if I drank it would solve my problems, but I don't so, sometime in the past I seem to have downloaded a file called UpdatePack_B1115.7. Is this file out of date or do I need it? If I do need it is this where I have to put the Zipped version in the main CMO directory and unzip it there or do I unzip it and copy and paste the files into the proper directory?

Based on your confusion level, I would stick with the official releases.

Thanks and you may be right and I might be exaggerating a small amount. Which I apologize for, but it is because nothing ever seems to go right plus it is hard to read the minds of programmers.

I am selling myself short. I retired after 35 years of working with computers and servers for 911 commcenter and fire and PD organizations. But like I said I try not to assume what is going through a programmer or Modder's mind.

I have down loaded all the latest DB files and images and descriptions etc. But before I install them I was just wondering if that aforementioned file is useful/will add to game experience? (UpdatePack_B115.7)

ORIGINAL: MemoryLeak
Thanks and you may be right and I might be exaggerating a small amount. Which I apologize for, but it is because nothing ever seems to go right plus it is hard to read the minds of programmers.

I am selling myself short. I retired after 35 years of working with computers and servers for 911 commcenter and fire and PD organizations. But like I said I try not to assume what is going through a programmer or Modder's mind.

I have down loaded all the latest DB files and images and descriptions etc. But before I install them I was just wondering if that aforementioned file is useful/will add to game experience? (UpdatePack_B115.7)

No on that "115.7" named file, doesn't even sound like it's for CMO but maybe for CMANO.
CMO install:
CMO Multisetup 1147.14[x - done]
CMO Updater 1147.23 [x - done]
Community DB images\map pack [x - optional sounds like you did this]

Start game, verify you can load a scene (any scene), close game.

CMO beta update UpdatePack_B1147.24.7z [completely optional]
To "install"- manually just copy over what exists in cmo folders with what exists in the zip.
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5018431
Even though completely optional I would recommend the 1147.24 beta though IF planning on doing micro'ing of sub warfare, as it contains a particular torp-tube reload\unload fix as well as a couple others I think some may want applied to avoid problems.

Its not really that hard. I'm not sure why you are having so many issues with it. I would play the game a little and get more familiar with it before you start doing a lot of extra stuff.

The file you are talking about is for CMNAO, not CMO. I'm not even sure where you are seeing that file.

Thanks everyone. I'm not actually having issues with it. Just being cautious.

I don't know why the initial install went south but this time it worked.

I did the install.
The latest update.
The small hotfix for torps that just came out.

Now I might hold off on the DB files from the Mod section. I don't know if I really need them.


And while all of this was going on I have viewed 6 tutorial video's so far that P Gatcomb made. I intend to watch all of them.

I still have Harpoon 360 that I bought back in the 80's. They didn't really have any good software store here and I happened to get it at a hobby shop. I really like it but the aircraft all seemed to have a mind of their own and wouldn't obey orders, as I recall. That was 40 years ago.

This is starting out just like it did two years ago and I just want to scream.

I started with the first tutorial, flight. first entry.

I hit space and F6 like it said. Air operations pops up but no aircraft are listed. I tried the second flight tutorial, same situation.

Is this a stand alone game or do I have to jump through more hoops and download the database in the MODs section of the Forums?

Under images for CWDB there is placeholder file and DB3000 has one image.

But under descriptions for both there are a zillion files. This is the sad part because to everyone who lives and breaths this game it is second nature, but anyone new has to have been born into it.


I think the problem could be that I am to select the Ramat Airbase. Anyone know how to do that? There are dozens of squares where it look liket he airbase has to be and I can't find any with the Ramat label. IS there an order of battle list somewhere that I can click on?

ORIGINAL: MemoryLeak

This is starting out just like it did two years ago and I just want to scream.

I started with the first tutorial, flight. first entry.

I hit space and F6 like it said. Air operations pops up but no aircraft are listed. I tried the second flight tutorial, same situation.

Is this a stand alone game or do I have to jump through more hoops and download the database in the MODs section of the Forums?

Under images for CWDB there is placeholder file and DB3000 has one image.

But under descriptions for both there are a zillion files. This is the sad part because to everyone who lives and breaths this game it is second nature, but anyone new has to have been born into it.


I think the problem could be that I am to select the Ramat Airbase. Anyone know how to do that? There are dozens of squares where it look liket he airbase has to be and I can't find any with the Ramat label. IS there an order of battle list somewhere that I can click on?

Don’t feel bad. I suspect the tutorials were built for the first game (CMANO) but didn’t translate perfectly. I had issues with some of the messages as well.

As far as finding the airbase - you may be in the expanded group view that shows all the assets for the base. Try pressing the 9 key on the number pad to see if it changes the view to a “single unit” airbase, which you can then select.

thank you I will try that. The first aircraft tutorial that works is the ASW one. So I know some function ok.


Maverick3320---that did the trick. The base icons all grouped into one and the aircraft are there now. Thanks again. are