Operation Weserübung
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:22 am
I've searched for threads related to this and found a few but none seem to address this issue.
Denmark was taken by the Germans quickly and used as a base for its invasion of Norway but in WiE, the Norway DE (643/4) can be answered in the affirmative but the Denmark DE (601) answered in the negative. With or without Denmark, the invasion of Norway will succeed.
Linked to this is the timing of the fall of Denmark - it occurs at the end of the Axis turn (surrender2.txt) and Denmark is left without any German forces in it. An Allied (LR) transported unit can take Copenhagen without a fight. Not only will this not attract any diplomatic repercussions that a DoW on Denmark would (especially the US reaction) but it gives the Allies access to the Baltic Sea with their fleet and ACs. Until Copenhagen is retaken by the Germans - exactly when they are focused on France - the fleets can roam free and perhaps even launch an invasion against Germany itself. Even if this will be crushed eventually, it will be a huge PITA for the German player.
I'm in favour of the what-if aspect of this but it raises two questions for me:
1. Why can't the Denmark surrender occur at the beginning of the Axis turn so that the Germans can send units in to protect it?
2. How can Norway still be invaded with Denmark still neutral? Presumably the KM and LW will know that passage across the Kattegat will be almost suicidal without Danish bases.
My suggestion is simply to make the fall of Denmark occur either at the end of the Allied turn or at the beginning of the Axis turn. In this way, Denmark can be taken and used as a base for the Norway invasion while making an Allied invasion possible but much riskier.
Denmark was taken by the Germans quickly and used as a base for its invasion of Norway but in WiE, the Norway DE (643/4) can be answered in the affirmative but the Denmark DE (601) answered in the negative. With or without Denmark, the invasion of Norway will succeed.
Linked to this is the timing of the fall of Denmark - it occurs at the end of the Axis turn (surrender2.txt) and Denmark is left without any German forces in it. An Allied (LR) transported unit can take Copenhagen without a fight. Not only will this not attract any diplomatic repercussions that a DoW on Denmark would (especially the US reaction) but it gives the Allies access to the Baltic Sea with their fleet and ACs. Until Copenhagen is retaken by the Germans - exactly when they are focused on France - the fleets can roam free and perhaps even launch an invasion against Germany itself. Even if this will be crushed eventually, it will be a huge PITA for the German player.
I'm in favour of the what-if aspect of this but it raises two questions for me:
1. Why can't the Denmark surrender occur at the beginning of the Axis turn so that the Germans can send units in to protect it?
2. How can Norway still be invaded with Denmark still neutral? Presumably the KM and LW will know that passage across the Kattegat will be almost suicidal without Danish bases.
My suggestion is simply to make the fall of Denmark occur either at the end of the Allied turn or at the beginning of the Axis turn. In this way, Denmark can be taken and used as a base for the Norway invasion while making an Allied invasion possible but much riskier.