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vehicles disappear
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:26 am
by Barbos2
Hi
I play for Germans, in January 1942 I transfer fully equipped 19-th Pz Division from West Europe to Map. That's ok, in two turns the division lands near Berlin, but with 0 vehicles instead of ~ 2500 before the transfer. I experimented a few times with other divisions, sometimes got zero again, sometimes about half lost. Sure, without trucks the unit has no combat value. Why does this happen?
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:18 am
by xhoel
Units coming from the reserve come without trucks. So you have to let them sit in a depot (an NSS preferably) so they receive vehicles for next turn.
It is WAD, but it is an annoying feature that in my opinion should be removed.
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:45 am
by loki100
ORIGINAL: xhoel
Units coming from the reserve come without trucks. So you have to let them sit in a depot (an NSS preferably) so they receive vehicles for next turn.
It is WAD, but it is an annoying feature that in my opinion should be removed.
may not be WAD - the OP says its a transfer from the West
as to the reserve, well the alternative is an awful lot of trucks tied up with all the frustration that will cause?
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:48 pm
by Barbos2
More experiments: I just transfer pz divisions from WE or AR to MAP. They all (say 10th and 22nd pzd) start with full set of trucks (~2500 each). They land near NSS (Berlin): 22nd with the same number of trucks (100%) and 10th with just 313 trucks (12%). I wait for one turn more, but no change, 10th pzd is crippled. That happens after transfers from reserve (WE, AR etc) to MAP, sometimes divisions arrive with full set of vehicles, sometimes half or less, even zero. I think it'd be natural to keep all the division's trucks after the transfer.
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:56 pm
by loki100
ORIGINAL: Barbos2
More experiments: I just transfer pz divisions from WE or AR to MAP. They all (say 10th and 22nd pzd) start with full set of trucks (~2500 each). They land near NSS (Berlin): 22nd with the same number of trucks (100%) and 10th with just 313 trucks (12%). I wait for one turn more, but no change, 10th pzd is crippled. That happens after transfers from reserve (WE, AR etc) to MAP, sometimes divisions arrive with full set of vehicles, sometimes half or less, even zero. I think it'd be natural to keep all the division's trucks after the transfer.
units in the reserve don't have their own trucks, this is by design
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:53 am
by Barbos2
Experiment N: January 1941, Germans are pretty low on vehicles, but the pool has ~10000. I transfer six Pz Divisions in one turn from AR to MAP and they arrive with 0 trucks all. Great.
Experiment N+1: the same turn. I transfer one Pz Division from AR to MAP and it arrives with 100% trucks.
Conclusion: it's ok to transfer units from the reserves by one per turn and keep them on MAP near NSS so that they do not loose trucks and not take fatigue. Do they receive training on the MAP?
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:13 pm
by DrHiramTemple
ORIGINAL: loki100
units in the reserve don't have their own trucks, this is by design
I'm not sure this is working as designed then, as most of my units in the SR show a vehicle qty, listed in both the unit itself and in the command window. Attached a pic for reference.
Is this a display issue then, or something else?
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:11 am
by Erzac
What I'm seeing is some PzD's refill their trucks in AR and keep them when coming back to the map and some are shedding all the trucks instead. No noticeable pattern why some formations keep their trucks and some don't.
RE: vehicles disappear
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:14 am
by Denniss
This should be bugged for investigation.
Its possible a display issue or they have trucks in reserve but send them back to pool once transferred to map.
investigation needed to verify it all works as intended and no trucks are sent into nirwana or taken out of it.