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Have a transport task force with over 10,000 supply at a port over 1 at a base with over 10,000 supply as well and all of these options are greyed out. This is all I can find to do in the manual. What am I missing?

Hint - Where was the supply loaded?
Hint - Are there any of those vessels in your pools?

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Hint - Where was the supply loaded?
Hint - Are there any of those vessels in your pools?

Truk.

No. Don't see anything about needing midget subs, barges, PT, etc. in pools to create them?

ORIGINAL: Tanaka


No. Don't see anything about needing midget subs, barges, PT, etc. in pools to create them?

Oh dear, is there a YouTube video out there produced by a very "knowledgeable" expert that said that?

Certainly the manual does not confirm the veracity of your statement.

For further details retrieve my detailed posts on this subject.

Alfred

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Tanaka


No. Don't see anything about needing midget subs, barges, PT, etc. in pools to create them?

Oh dear, is there a YouTube video out there produced by a very "knowledgeable" expert that said that?

Certainly the manual does not confirm the veracity of your statement.

For further details retrieve my detailed posts on this subject.

Alfred

All I could find oh great one:

6.2.16 CREATING PT BOATS, MOTOR GUNBOATS, MIDGET SUBS AND BARGES
Small combatants such as American PT boats were particularly useful in narrow waters, both
sides made use of PT’s and MGB’s, as well as various barges and landing craft (LCVPs, LCMs,
and LBs) for short beach to beach invasions and supply hops between islands. The Japanese
also used Midget Subs to protect some of their bases. However, all these vessels had to be
transported over the ocean to their new base.
To create a PT boat or barge:
»» Form a Transport TF and load supplies onto it. Once this is done, at any
time the TF may convert some of the loaded supplies to create a TF of
barges or to create a TF of PT boats by clicking on the appropriate Create
Barge, Create PT Boats, Create MGB or Create SSX arrow button. This is
done from the TF Information Screen of the TF carrying the supplies.
»» Build them from any base with a current port size of
at least 1 and more than 10000 supplies.
When the barge or PT boat TF is created, it will consist of up to 15 barges or 12 PT boats and/
or MGBs or 4 Midget Subs if these ships are currently available to be brought into the game. As
long as there are supplies carried by the creating TF and there are ships available, the TF can
continue to create additional barge or PT boat Task Forces.
Supplies are used up for each ship created as follows:
Midget Sub 100 Supply Points
LCT 60 Supply Points
PT Boat 50 Supply Points
MGB 50 Supply Points
Large LB 35 Supply Points
LCM 25 Supply Points
Small LB 20 Supply Points
LCVP 10 Supply Points
In all cases, the above listed supply point cost is a minimum cost. Any PT, MGB, SSX or barge
with a tonnage greater than the listed supply cost will have its cost increased to its tonnage.
The number of barges and PT boats available to you can be found on the Ship Availability
Screen accessed through the Intelligence Screen.
PT boats, MGBs, SSX’s and barges act in all ways like all other ships; they can rearm in exactly
the same way as all other ships.
Players can return these ships to the pool if desired. They can then be repurchased from the
pool after a delay. This allows movement of small craft between ports, which is difficult or not otherwise possible due to their short range. It emulates loading them onto transport ships and
moving them to a new destination.

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Hint - Where was the supply loaded?
Hint - Are there any of those vessels in your pools?

Truk.


No. Don't see anything about needing midget subs, barges, PT, etc. in pools to create them?

In the passage that you quoted is this sentence.

The number of barges and PT boats available to you can be found on the Ship Availability
Screen accessed through the Intelligence Screen.

So are there any available?

ORIGINAL: Nomad

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Hint - Where was the supply loaded?
Hint - Are there any of those vessels in your pools?

Truk.


No. Don't see anything about needing midget subs, barges, PT, etc. in pools to create them?

In the passage that you quoted is this sentence.

The number of barges and PT boats available to you can be found on the Ship Availability
Screen accessed through the Intelligence Screen.

So are there any available?

Finally thank you. Did not see this. What do the three numbers mean?

You have 19 midget subs and 48 barges available. There are none in production or refit.

ORIGINAL: Nomad

You have 19 midget subs and 48 barges available. There are none in production or refit.

Ok thanks which goes back to my original question if they are available why can I not activate them from my transport TF?

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: Nomad

You have 19 midget subs and 48 barges available. There are none in production or refit.

Ok thanks which goes back to my original question if they are available why can I not activate them from my transport TF?

We need a screenshot of your TF.

Maybe your ships are too small to carry a barge.
A whole bunch of small cargo ships will not do it even if they have 10,000 total supply.

I would say don’t use any AKL’s

Don Bowen
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“...have ships big enough to carry a PT and having enough supply points to represent a PT on board”

Also, Alfred posted on Pt boat creation in 2015:
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In the game the PT boat and barge carry is abstracted by using supply
but you still need ships large enough.

The Supply aboard the ship has to have been loaded in your home country.

Otherwise, they can be drawn from the pool into any port you own that has sufficient supply.

See the bottom right corner of the port interface.

Otherwise, they can be drawn from the pool into any port you own that has sufficient supply.

See the bottom right corner of the port interface.

QED.[;)]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The Supply aboard the ship has to have been loaded in your home country.

Otherwise, they can be drawn from the pool into any port you own that has sufficient supply.

See the bottom right corner of the port interface.

This is the answer then. I loaded from Truk not Japan. I don't see that part in the manual?

ORIGINAL: Trugrit

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: Nomad

You have 19 midget subs and 48 barges available. There are none in production or refit.

Ok thanks which goes back to my original question if they are available why can I not activate them from my transport TF?

We need a screenshot of your TF.

Maybe your ships are too small to carry a barge.
A whole bunch of small cargo ships will not do it even if they have 10,000 total supply.

I would say don’t use any AKL’s

Don Bowen
fb.asp?m=2859144
“...have ships big enough to carry a PT and having enough supply points to represent a PT on board”

In the game the PT boat and barge carry is abstracted by using supply
but you still need ships large enough.

They are large AKs. No AKLs. Nice pic.

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The Supply aboard the ship has to have been loaded in your home country.

Otherwise, they can be drawn from the pool into any port you own that has sufficient supply.

See the bottom right corner of the port interface.

This is the answer then. I loaded from Truk not Japan. I don't see that part in the manual?

I don't know, did you look?

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The Supply aboard the ship has to have been loaded in your home country.

Otherwise, they can be drawn from the pool into any port you own that has sufficient supply.

See the bottom right corner of the port interface.

This is the answer then. I loaded from Truk not Japan. I don't see that part in the manual?

That may or may not be the only answer in this specific interest, the details of which you still have refused to provide. If there are other relevant conditions for creating barges not met in this instance, how long before you again pose the same question?

As always you refuse to retrieve my answer on a subject. My October 2015 post is the most detailed, consolidated in a single location, answer you will find. In stead of retrieving it, as I had suggested above, you engage in your usual praxis of trying to learn how to game the code. No interest in doing your own study, learning the rules and logically deducing how they apply to each individual set of specific circumstances. No, far easier to fail to read what is actually presented on a screen or a document when you can just sponge off the kindheartedness of others doing your work for you. A task made very difficult by your constant omission of relevant information when you post your silly questions (the most recent being can a non dive bomber perform like a dive bomber - which is similar to someone asking why don't buses race at the Indy 500, after all they have wheels and engines just like the racing cars which compete in that race).

Considering you have owned AE for more than 10 years, you really haven't learnt anything. How did you graduate from high school?

Alfred

Careful Alfred. He'll be running for President next.

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Careful Alfred. He'll be running for President next.

He just might win!

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The Supply aboard the ship has to have been loaded in your home country.

Otherwise, they can be drawn from the pool into any port you own that has sufficient supply.

See the bottom right corner of the port interface.

This is the answer then. I loaded from Truk not Japan. I don't see that part in the manual?

That may or may not be the only answer in this specific interest, the details of which you still have refused to provide. If there are other relevant conditions for creating barges not met in this instance, how long before you again pose the same question?

As always you refuse to retrieve my answer on a subject. My October 2015 post is the most detailed, consolidated in a single location, answer you will find. In stead of retrieving it, as I had suggested above, you engage in your usual praxis of trying to learn how to game the code. No interest in doing your own study, learning the rules and logically deducing how they apply to each individual set of specific circumstances. No, far easier to fail to read what is actually presented on a screen or a document when you can just sponge off the kindheartedness of others doing your work for you. A task made very difficult by your constant omission of relevant information when you post your silly questions (the most recent being can a non dive bomber perform like a dive bomber - which is similar to someone asking why don't buses race at the Indy 500, after all they have wheels and engines just like the racing cars which compete in that race).

Considering you have owned AE for more than 10 years, you really haven't learnt anything. How did you graduate from high school?

Alfred

Are you Autistic or Asbergers or something?

I don't know the location of your thread oh great one sorry. I've done plenty of searches and reading of threads for mini subs. Stop acting and presuming you know everything about everything and everyone oh great one. So many people call you a pompous sanctimonious ass and you never listen. How did you ever graduate from Special Ed?

I just came back to WITPAE after ten years. You have to learn the game all over again. Here is a screenshot of the Transport TF at Truk. I don't know what other details to offer. Can someone else besides this ahole respond. PLEASE STAY OUT OF MY THREADS ALFRED YOU DON'T OWN THE FORUMS GET A LIFE