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WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:50 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: ncc1701e
Result of the first attack. 10:1 -> 4:1. Enemy fighter covers plus enemy bombers against my own bombers.
Could you please explain me this result?
The HQ displays 0 CV. My two infantry corps is adding 8 + 8 = 16.
This is 10:1.
Now the engine has chosen the tactical group of 3 with fighters to cover them.
My tactical group I Fliegerkorps was at tactical 5.
This is 8 + 8 + 5 against 0 + 3 (tactical of bomber) + 1 (tactical of fighter) i.e. 21 / 4 = 5,25 ==> 5:1 or 6:1.
But looks like the engine has taken 8 + 8 + 0 against 0 + 3 (tactical of bomber) + 1 (tactical of fighter) i.e. 16 / 4 => 4:1.
Does the enemy fighters remove the tactical points of the bombers if they are not escorted?
My fault, no fighter cover...
And also,
if there are dogfights between fighters, does their tactical value added anyway in the results?
Thanks
RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:14 pm
by Nirosi
Maybe it is because of the various rounding? The closest to 0 combat value, the more possible to have a bigger distortion. A display of 0 for the HQ could mean anything between 0.01 and 0.99 as the real number used for combat that Alvaro does not want us to see (if I understand his explanation correctly about this) [;)]
RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:17 pm
by Nirosi
For example, maybe the This is 8 + 8 + 5 against 0 + 3 (tactical of bomber) + 1 (tactical of fighter) i.e. 21 / 4 = 5,25 ==> 5:1 or 6:1. is actually 8.1+8.1+5.1 against 0.5+3.5+1.0? which would be 4:1... maybe...
RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:31 pm
by ncc1701e
I just would like to understand if unescorted bombers against enemy fighters are supposed to lose their tactical ground support points? Or have them divided by two? I don't know.
I just want to understand how it works.
RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:44 pm
by Nirosi
Hum... good question? I am curious as to Alvaro answer as well.
My educated guess would be that if they do lose steps, those lost steps are not taken into account (will not participate/fire) and maybe also the whole unit will be less effective du to reduce effectiveness? [&:]
RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:50 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: ncc1701e
I just would like to understand if unescorted bombers against enemy fighters are supposed to lose their tactical ground support points? Or have them divided by two? I don't know.
I just want to understand how it works.
Anticipating the answer, if there are two choices, continuing or abording the support mission due to fighter interception, it could be shown with just one line in the Combat Logs like this:

RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:57 am
by AlvaroSousa
Air to air combat is fought before land combat resolves. SO bombers take losses THEN apply their factors to ground combat.
RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Question on fighter cover
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:05 pm
by ncc1701e
Thanks