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WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:10 pm
by ncc1701e
More testing. I have disable full support on all Allies planes. Here is my target.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:14 pm
by ncc1701e
Going on the Axis side. I am using II Jagdkorps with an Air Combat of 7 against the French plane (Air Combat of 5).

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:15 pm
by ncc1701e
After the strike, I lost 9% and 2 steps.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:15 pm
by ncc1701e
No Air to Air combat of course since the French were not in full support.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:16 pm
by ncc1701e
Going back on the Allies side, the French plane seems intact.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:17 pm
by ncc1701e
Now same target but in full support mode.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:20 pm
by ncc1701e
I don't know why but, this time, the supply truck brings me an Air Combat of 8 so against an Air Combat of 5.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:20 pm
by ncc1701e
But the attack is a disaster. I lost 4 steps whereas the French only 1 step.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:22 pm
by ncc1701e
Of course, the unit has suffered.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:23 pm
by ncc1701e
Whereas the French has only lost 8% of effectiveness.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:25 pm
by ncc1701e
Honestly, I don't understand this Air to Air combat result. I have replicated several times. My guess is that the results are reversed. And, I think the following is proving it.

RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:39 pm
by ncc1701e
This time, I am putting II Jagdkorps with an Air Combat of 8 in full support mode.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:41 pm
by ncc1701e
This is IV Jagdkorps with an Air Combat of 6 that will perform the attack.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:44 pm
by ncc1701e
And bingo, I have reproduced several times, II Jagdkorps is losing 1 step and the 4th Ftr Grp is losing 4 steps. Hence my theory that the results are reversed when there is no second Air to Air combat.

The second Air to Air combat is almost equivalent, Air Combat of 6 vs Air Combat of 5 but I think this is also reversed.

@Alvaro, could you please check this?

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:23 pm
by ncc1701e
I think the first Air to Air combat result, when there is no second Air to Air combat, and the second Air to Air combat result, when there is a first Air to Air combat, are reversed because of this other test.

This time, the IV Jagdkorps is in full support mode. This is II Jagdkorps that will perform the strike.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm
by ncc1701e
And look at the first result, IV Jagdkorps losing 1 step (Air Combat 6) and 4th Ftr Grp losing 3 steps (Air Combat 5).
But the second result is bad II Jagdkorps losing 2 steps (Air Combat 8) and 4th Ftr Grp losing 1 step (Air Combat 5).

I think this second result is reversed.

By the way, how does it work? Are the results of the first Air to Air combat is taken into account in the second Air to Air combat for the 4th Ftr Grp?

Thanks

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:45 pm
by Nirosi
My guess is that the results are reversed.

Nice catch! You more than deserve your tester status [&o][:)]

RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:39 am
by ncc1701e
What is strange is that, on Allies side, the result seems correct. Attacking the Air Combat 8 airfield with my Air Combat 5 fighter.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:40 am
by ncc1701e
I always have this 4:1 ratio in favor of the Air Combat 8 fighter. Maybe a problem only on Axis side? This is strange.

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RE: WPE 1.00.141 Beta 5.1 - Fighters vs Airfield

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:50 am
by AlvaroSousa
Air Sups flying as bombers have 1/3rd the air to air rating when flying as bombers. That's why you got slaughtered.

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