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Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:47 am
by canuckgamer
According to the weather table, air operations penalized to 50% in rain. I conducted an air attack on an enemy airfield from a land based air unit. I then moved some CV's in range of the same airfield but no missions icons shows at the top.

Are air operations from carriers prohibited in rain? I don't recall having this happen before.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:19 am
by ncc1701e
Rain or Heavy Rain

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:25 am
by Nirosi
I believe only heavy rain? Were the carriers on "airfield strike" mode?

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:45 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Should follow the same rules. Plz verify next turn.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:06 pm
by canuckgamer
I figured out what was happening and don't know if this was your intention or it is a bug. The CVs and other surface ships were in Port Said which is a 5 factor port. The four mission icons for the CVs were not displayed, even when I moved them to the sea hex where I want to conduct an airfield strike. On a hunch, I moved the fleet to Alexandria and sure enough the mission icons were now displayed. Alexandria as you know is a 9 factor port. There are 3 CVs in the fleet. Please clarify.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:05 am
by AlvaroSousa
In port you can't fly air. Out of port you can of course. But I would have to do this myself because at no point outside of a port have I ever seen a CV not have the air missions.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:20 am
by canuckgamer
Last turn when I clicked on the fleet with the 3CV's in Port Said no mission icons were displayed. When I moved the fleet out Port Said to within 3 hexes of the port of Rhodes there were still no mission icons showing so I used the undo toggle to move them back. I then moved them to Alexandria and the mission icons then appeared and ended my turn. I thought it might have something to do with the port size since only ports of 5 and above can repair ships. I also thought that maybe 3 CVs were more than the maximum allowed in a fleet but the rules say a maximum of 3 and that thought didn't make sense anyway. This turn I loaded an infantry in Alexandria and with the fleet escorting invaded Benghazi which was not garrisoned.

That brings up some more questions. There are Axis units east of Tobruk which they still hold with the furthest in hexes 185,10 185,9 and 185,8. I took Benghazi because it cuts the road from Tripoli and Misurata. Tobruk, Tripoli and Misurata combined can supply 240 strength points. However the Axis units east of Tobruk are so far from Tripoli and Misurata that I wouldn't think they would count for supply unless they retreated west. My estimate of the total supply use requirements of those Axis forces is about 290. In this situation I would expect the Axis units in excess of 240 to be in basic supply only and not eligible to receive reinforcements. I would also expect that if they did not retreat west that those units in basic supply would begin to lose effectiveness. Is my understanding correct?

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:59 am
by stjeand
Basic supply means they do not gain effectiveness as well as reinforcements.
You will have to wear them down with air strikes or attacks to gee their effectiveness down more.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:24 am
by AstroBlues
[&o]

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:07 am
by AlvaroSousa
Did you have a unit transporting with the CV fleet? You can't perform attack options while transporting a unit.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:40 pm
by canuckgamer
Yes I did. Not sure why CVs can't perform attack options in this situation. Surface ships can still bombard and conduct naval combat can't they? What if a fleet with a transport and CVs is attacked by enemy air? I assume the CVs will still send up CAP.

RE: Naval Strikes from Carriers in Rain

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:39 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Yes they send up CAP to protect their own. Any fleet with land/air units can't participate in naval combat.