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Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:11 pm
by Stamb
This unit is missing 5 305mm skoda hotwizers
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In production screen we can see that it has ar:need
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Which accoring to the manual:
If the description is ‘ar:need’ then production will vary
according to demand and how many of that item are
already in the pool.

But it is not builing even if some units needs it. This is done on purpose that if some of that super heavy artillery is destroyed then it is gone forever?

RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:21 pm
by AlbertN
I asked that in the past and now it is clear!

They've a production of -1. As per they cannot be produced.

These massive guns are vestige of WW1, pratically not anymore produced. Or simply too expensive to be produced on a weekly basis.
In fact there are some 600mm that will come as reinforcement later on.

They're one shot marvels, pretty much and once spent, they're gone. So they are to be used with caution. (Silly me I think I've wasted all my K3 due to attrition during Soviet Winter!)

RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:41 pm
by Stamb
Thankfully i am keeping this beauties for a Moscow!
Where can i see that production is -1, only in the editor?

RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:55 pm
by AlbertN
If you go on the Production Screen (The metal cogwheel icon thing!) - where you also see 'Ar:need' and then click on the specified gun it will give you the production details.

In that screen you can see it! Give me few moments to launch the game and take a screenie!

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RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:42 am
by Yogol
They also have a Rate Of Fire of -4 does anyone knows what that means?

Do they fire backwards or so? (j/k!!! seriously, what does -4 means)

RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:56 am
by Stamb
ORIGINAL: AlbertN
If you go on the Production Screen (The metal cogwheel icon thing!) - where you also see 'Ar:need' and then click on the specified gun it will give you the production details.

Oh. Thank you!
Anyway i would remove ar:need from a production screen.



RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:04 am
by loki100
ORIGINAL: Stamb

ORIGINAL: AlbertN
If you go on the Production Screen (The metal cogwheel icon thing!) - where you also see 'Ar:need' and then click on the specified gun it will give you the production details.

Oh. Thank you!
Anyway i would remove ar:need from a production screen.

its one of those coding/data structure issues, for the element to exist it needs to be notionally produceable, for production to be stopped for all the feasible game period it needs to be ar:need and -1.

RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:58 pm
by tonyhnz
in addition to the -1 - in the screen shot top left it also indicates that there are no factory locations producing it ?

RE: Some elements with ar:need are not produced

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:21 pm
by GibsonPete
My understanding is if it does not have a chassis, it does not need a special factory. Any Arms and manpower factory will do. You will find no MG34 factories.