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"Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 am
by Jeff_Ahl
I can not find this in the manual. Why has the loadout expired and how to I make it possible to get the possibility to have the same loadout again?

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RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:30 am
by Jango32
It's a post-manual/release addition. No more drop tanks for your JGs, essentially.

RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:19 am
by Denniss
Some loadout are available for a limited amount of time. You may also find some aircraft with a future loadout which is not available yet.

RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:36 am
by Jeff_Ahl
ORIGINAL: Denniss

Some loadout are available for a limited amount of time. You may also find some aircraft with a future loadout which is not available yet.

Thanks for the answer.

So is the load out ever possible to achieve any where in a distant future? Or is it over as Jango32 says? And what is the reason why it is only there for a limited amount of time?

I have missed those discussions at this forum.

RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:27 pm
by GibsonPete
Jeff_Ahl;
Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future. Jango32 is correct you may not change this, not even with the editor. It was a decision made by the designers after release. Why? Don't know, although they stated the Axis did not use them a lot on the Eastern front. Will it change? Patience you must have my young Padawan.

RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:15 pm
by Jeff_Ahl
ORIGINAL: GibsonPete

Jeff_Ahl;
Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future. Jango32 is correct you may not change this, not even with the editor. It was a decision made by the designers after release. Why? Don't know, although they stated the Axis did not use them a lot on the Eastern front. Will it change? Patience you must have my young Padawan.

I bow for your wisdom master Yoda! ;)

RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:10 pm
by Tailspintommy
ORIGINAL: Jeff_Ahl

I can not find this in the manual. Why has the loadout expired and how to I make it possible to get the possibility to have the same loadout again?

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It's not clear from your post whether this is the situation as of turn 1 in the campaign or some later point in time but it's certainly possible that the drop tank option could have been withdrawn at some point after turn one or possibly even from the start if historical evidence shows a particular aircraft didn't use them.
Equally possible that certain types which start out not having drop tanks could be given them later.
Amongst the Axis allies, there is a rag-tag mix of basically obsolete aircraft of very limited value. Some may have been originally designed to carry a wonderful array of weaponry and extras ON PAPER but in practice it was soon found that the designers dreams didn't match reality so much could never actually be carried..
It's possible that the developers had followed an official spec sheet for an aircraft and then later, discovered that drop tanks had never been fitted to that type in service use. I don't know the first thing about computer programming but maybe it's easier to add "Expired Loadouts" than alter the program to somehow remove all reference to them.

Sorry. I've just seen where it says "Last date 6/1941" so they've been cancelled from June 1941.

RE: "Expired loadout"

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:33 am
by Denniss
expires after June 1941