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Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:44 am
by Stamb
In my game vs Lovenought I was able to isolate Leningrad with Vatutin inside.

I thought that I will be able to take Leningrad and have a 50% chance, after latest fixes, of killing him.
I finished my turn. Opponent completed his turn.

To my surprise Vatutin makes counterattack in Crimea...

Lovenought makes nice suggestions in our conversation about current situation.

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RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:45 am
by Stamb
To my understanding there was no air HQ pickup. Just a simple reassigning.



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RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:46 am
by Stamb
No air or any other actions in Leningrad hex itself, where Vatutin was.

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:48 am
by Denniss
Was it also isolated on his turn ?

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:56 am
by Stamb
yep, in both phases as I control port in Leningrad "island" near Ladoga

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:58 pm
by xhoel
I dont think this is a bug. Leaders of isolated forces were sometimes evacuated by air and sent to other locations and the new leader was either flown in or assigned from the ones already in the pocket.

I think what could be changed is: adding a certain percentage that a leader being reassigned from a pocket will die. Air crash/air intercept etc.

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:00 pm
by Stamb
Yep. Maybe something in between of 15% and 50%. 30%?

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:18 pm
by AlbertN
I am quite sure one can use Admin Points to change leaders in Isolated Pockets.

Yes that is like an air extraction.

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 pm
by Stamb
I thought the same. But if you do so then you should also risk with a leader's life.

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:23 pm
by Joel Billings
I doubt we will change this, since you have to spend the APs to do this. Players can always house rule against it if they want to.

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:56 pm
by Stamb
So the only chance to kill valuable leader is to attack immediately and hope for a 15% chance because if player decide to isolate HQ and displace it when it is isolated on the next turn for 50% chance there, most likely, will be some non important guy :(

RE: Leaders can be moved out of isolated pockets

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:41 am
by Hardradi
ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

I doubt we will change this, since you have to spend the APs to do this. Players can always house rule against it if they want to.

Can you make it more AP expensive to re-assign leaders that are isolated?

I am sure the majority of troops wouldn't be to happy about it.