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Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:02 pm
by imperialWorldX
I purchased this game on steam and i cant even get into the galaxy creation menu without the game coming to a grinding halt and it just lags endlessly, and i can play games like stellaris and other 4x games with decent settings and have it run perfectly, but this game is very poorly optimized or its bigger then i thought.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:03 pm
by BTAxis
Can you list your system specs, possibly even a DxDiag? It might help figure out what the problem is.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:35 pm
by imperialWorldX
Here ya go
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:51 pm
by BTAxis
Sadly it seems the GT 620 might not be able to hack it. The minimum requirement listed on Steam is a GTX 760, which is
substantially more powerful.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:11 pm
by imperialWorldX
so is it easy to replace this crap ? can i just go to best buy and buy a GTX1050Ti ? would that cut it ?
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:12 pm
by imperialWorldX
because if i can just replace it il do that today
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:15 pm
by BTAxis
I mean, that would meet the recommended requirements. If you're in a position to get a graphics card and add it to your gaming machine, it's definitely something to consider.
If you don't know how to do it already though, you might want to hit up Youtube for a demonstration video. You will need to be sure your PC's motherboard can fit the new card you want, you need to hook it up to the power supply, etc.
It's honestly not that hard, but it's a little more complicated than plugging in a USB stick.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:21 pm
by andserk01
Why can't we change any graphics settings other than the resulution?
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:42 pm
by btd64
You can select a different color for your UI in settings....GP
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:43 pm
by btd64
btd64 wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:42 pm
You can select a different color for your UI in settings....GP
Don't know if that's what you want....GP
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:51 pm
by BTAxis
He's probably looking for things that affect performance. I don't think there's a whole lot that could affect performance too much though. There aren't any shadows as far as I know, and things like anti-aliasing typically don't affect performance a great deal.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:26 pm
by andserk01
I don't know if there are shadows, but I would like to tweak stuff like lighting quality, bloom, volumetric lighting/fog, object LOD, render or resolution scaling if there is any, reflections if there are any. There are quite a few settings that can affect performance besides shadows and anti-aliasing, not common knowledge I guess but stuff you learn when you can't afford a high end graphics card.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:39 pm
by BTAxis
I don't think DW2 has most of those. There is lighting, obviously, but no LOD beyond "do not render a model if it's too far away".
The thing is that unless you're in a large battle, there really isn't too much being rendered at all, at least when compared to your typical FPS or the likes.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:58 pm
by brucethemoose
BTAxis wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:39 pm
I don't think DW2 has most of those. There is lighting, obviously, but no LOD beyond "do not render a model if it's too far away".
The thing is that unless you're in a large battle, there really isn't too much being rendered at all, at least when compared to your typical FPS or the likes.
There are some configs for shaders in the xml files, for instance:
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<GraphicsSettings xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<ToneMapKeyValue>0.5</ToneMapKeyValue>
<ToneMapLuminanceLocalFactor>0</ToneMapLuminanceLocalFactor>
<ToneMapAutoExposure>false</ToneMapAutoExposure>
<ToneMapExposure>1</ToneMapExposure>
<ToneMapBrightness>0.2</ToneMapBrightness>
<ToneMapContrast>0.2</ToneMapContrast>
<ToneMapAdaptationRate>1</ToneMapAdaptationRate>
<ToneMapTemporalAdaptation>true</ToneMapTemporalAdaptation>
<BloomAmount>0.55</BloomAmount>
<BloomRadius>25</BloomRadius>
<LightStreakAmount>0.6</LightStreakAmount>
<LightStreakIsAnamorphic>true</LightStreakIsAnamorphic>
<LightStreakAttenuation>0.7</LightStreakAttenuation>
<LightStreakIterationCount>5</LightStreakIterationCount>
<LightStreakStreakCount>4</LightStreakStreakCount>
<LightStreakPhase>30</LightStreakPhase>
<LensFlareAmount>6</LensFlareAmount>
<LensFlareHaloFactor>1</LensFlareHaloFactor>
<BrightFilterThreshold>0.15</BrightFilterThreshold>
<DepthOfFieldEnabled>false</DepthOfFieldEnabled>
</GraphicsSettings>
And I saw some more references in the engine .dlls. But, in terms of squeezing out more performance, these are probably fairly light too.
The best thing you can probably do right now is run DW2 at a low resolution... and at that point, even AMD CAS/Nvidia NIS/ReShade would probably eat your performance gains. Though smart TVs can sharpen up low res input with no performance hit.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:17 pm
by andserk01
brucethemoose wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:58 pm
There are some configs for shaders in the xml files, for instance:
Thank you for sharing this info, I may wait until after some patches and see if there are some optimization improvements, I've seen players reporting framerate issues even with a 1050ti.
Re: Very slow framerate and crashing
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:40 am
by imperialWorldX
Went and bought a GTX1050ti for $300CAD and it runs smooth now ! no more worries. thanks for the help fellas