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Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:11 am
by ClassicAz
Low resource utilisation all round and janky framerate. Something really not right....
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Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:50 am
by Merlinoz
Interestingly with a much slower System not that much slower.
but it should be be faster at least with your System.
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Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:09 am
by BTAxis
Out of interest, do you see any difference in performance when turning off various overlays, particularly the location badges, the exploration overlay and the diplomatic overlay? What if you completely turn off the UI (using the button in the bottom right)? I have a feeling there's something in the UI that's causing FPS hiccups.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:24 am
by Merlinoz
Another drop of ca 10 FPS with the ui off.
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With the Game not in focus the FPS goes up to 60 FPS interestingly.
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Edit: this was not true a bug in one of my FPS display programs it seems, with MSI Afterburner OSD FPS do not change
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Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:29 am
by ClassicAz
BTAxis wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:09 am Out of interest, do you see any difference in performance when turning off various overlays, particularly the location badges, the exploration overlay and the diplomatic overlay? What if you completely turn off the UI (using the button in the bottom right)? I have a feeling there's something in the UI that's causing FPS hiccups.
Yes to your first point. Agreed with your last. The utilisation of my pc hardware makes my feel like I'm playing a software rendered game from the early 2000s....

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:45 am
by firemad
ClassicAz wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:11 am Low resource utilisation all round and janky framerate. Something really not right....

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I found your problem. I have a 6900 XT and I got a similar problem.

The minimum frequency (clock speed) is the reason why you got a bad FPS. You are running at 500 mhz.

Just use the advanced mode in the Radeon and move the minimum to 100 mhz less then the maximum and bingo you will get an increase in FPS dramatically.

I had to do this for this game at 4k with my 6900 XT because this game doesn't take a lot of ressources.

I had this problem for other game also. I don't know if dev can do anything about it or it's more an AMD issues.

Anyways when you force the minimum the GPU won't throttle and you will always get the best performance out of it but it will consume more power and electricity but who cares ?

Example for myself (my game is off and system is idle when I took the screenshot for my settings):

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:36 am
by SirHoraceHarkness
Yeah I had to make an nvidia profile to run the gpu at max performance when the game runs or else the gpu goes into idle mode. Haven't tried the new patch yet so it may have fixed it.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:28 pm
by ClassicAz
firemad wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:45 am
ClassicAz wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:11 am Low resource utilisation all round and janky framerate. Something really not right....

DW2utilisation.png
I found your problem. I have a 6900 XT and I got a similar problem.

The minimum frequency (clock speed) is the reason why you got a bad FPS. You are running at 500 mhz.

Just use the advanced mode in the Radeon and move the minimum to 100 mhz less then the maximum and bingo you will get an increase in FPS dramatically.

I had to do this for this game at 4k with my 6900 XT because this game doesn't take a lot of ressources.

I had this problem for other game also. I don't know if dev can do anything about it or it's more an AMD issues.

Anyways when you force the minimum the GPU won't throttle and you will always get the best performance out of it but it will consume more power and electricity but who cares ?

Example for myself (my game is off and system is idle when I took the screenshot for my settings):
Thanks mate, was aware the GPU underclock was the issue, but was really hoping to have a game fix for this rather then to resort to a fixed clock approach.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:47 am
by firemad
ClassicAz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:28 pm
firemad wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:45 am
ClassicAz wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:11 am Low resource utilisation all round and janky framerate. Something really not right....

DW2utilisation.png
I found your problem. I have a 6900 XT and I got a similar problem.

The minimum frequency (clock speed) is the reason why you got a bad FPS. You are running at 500 mhz.

Just use the advanced mode in the Radeon and move the minimum to 100 mhz less then the maximum and bingo you will get an increase in FPS dramatically.

I had to do this for this game at 4k with my 6900 XT because this game doesn't take a lot of ressources.

I had this problem for other game also. I don't know if dev can do anything about it or it's more an AMD issues.

Anyways when you force the minimum the GPU won't throttle and you will always get the best performance out of it but it will consume more power and electricity but who cares ?

Example for myself (my game is off and system is idle when I took the screenshot for my settings):
Thanks mate, was aware the GPU underclock was the issue, but was really hoping to have a game fix for this rather then to resort to a fixed clock approach.
Agree. I posted my solution in the AMD request help in the technical subforum. Hope dev will fix it too.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:06 am
by maggiecow
What program are you using to show resources in the OP?

Using Xbox Game Bar (!) I'm showing about 5% CPU utilization and 30% GPU with a 5950 and RTX3090

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:47 pm
by firemad
maggiecow wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:06 am What program are you using to show resources in the OP?

Using Xbox Game Bar (!) I'm showing about 5% CPU utilization and 30% GPU with a 5950 and RTX3090
I'm using Radeon Software for setting my GPU but I'm using MSI Afterburner with Riva Tuner Statistic.

If you can't you can use Radeon Sofware then only MSI Afterburner with Riva Tuner Statistic will work well btw.

Here an article to explain how to use it and show FPS in game or other statistic to your GPU.

I know dev implemented something in the latest patch but I can't find how to enable it.

https://itigic.com/how-to-use-rivatuner ... -hardware/

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm
by ClassicAz
firemad wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:47 am
ClassicAz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:28 pm
firemad wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:45 am

I found your problem. I have a 6900 XT and I got a similar problem.

The minimum frequency (clock speed) is the reason why you got a bad FPS. You are running at 500 mhz.

Just use the advanced mode in the Radeon and move the minimum to 100 mhz less then the maximum and bingo you will get an increase in FPS dramatically.

I had to do this for this game at 4k with my 6900 XT because this game doesn't take a lot of ressources.

I had this problem for other game also. I don't know if dev can do anything about it or it's more an AMD issues.

Anyways when you force the minimum the GPU won't throttle and you will always get the best performance out of it but it will consume more power and electricity but who cares ?

Example for myself (my game is off and system is idle when I took the screenshot for my settings):
Thanks mate, was aware the GPU underclock was the issue, but was really hoping to have a game fix for this rather then to resort to a fixed clock approach.
Agree. I posted my solution in the AMD request help in the technical subforum. Hope dev will fix it too.
I had a play with fixing the clock yesterday. It didn't really seem to make a material difference to actual in game performance :(

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:39 pm
by brucethemoose
maggiecow wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:06 am What program are you using to show resources in the OP?

Using Xbox Game Bar (!) I'm showing about 5% CPU utilization and 30% GPU with a 5950 and RTX3090
I also like SpecialK, which also has very helpful frametime metrics and some other toggleable tweaks:

Image

Xbox game bar also good, it just has a bit less info.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:33 am
by maggiecow
Thanks folks! Xbox Game Bar seems to give me the usage stats (just not as pretty as those in the OP) but I don't really know if it's good or bad. The game really doesn't seem to be multi-threading, maybe 2 or 3-threading, and because it's so CPU bound my GPU isn't getting taxed at all.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:53 pm
by firemad
ClassicAz wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm
firemad wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:47 am
ClassicAz wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:28 pm

Thanks mate, was aware the GPU underclock was the issue, but was really hoping to have a game fix for this rather then to resort to a fixed clock approach.
Agree. I posted my solution in the AMD request help in the technical subforum. Hope dev will fix it too.
I had a play with fixing the clock yesterday. It didn't really seem to make a material difference to actual in game performance :(
Oh :cry: well it's depend of the GPU of my AMD. I have a very powerful one so I guess if you are in the lower or middle end it won't matter for my fix.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:55 pm
by firemad
brucethemoose wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:39 pm
maggiecow wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:06 am What program are you using to show resources in the OP?

Using Xbox Game Bar (!) I'm showing about 5% CPU utilization and 30% GPU with a 5950 and RTX3090
I also like SpecialK, which also has very helpful frametime metrics and some other toggleable tweaks:

Image

Xbox game bar also good, it just has a bit less info.
I have problem with SpecialK. I got the RGB warning when I started it. Did you do something special ?

Also everything is so dark with SpecialK. I found in another thread that I needed to enable the HDR in special K and tweak some stuff to see something on my monitor in 4k.

I just saw your screenshot and I wanted to know if you did something special in SpecialK ? :mrgreen:

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:01 pm
by brucethemoose
firemad wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:55 pm
brucethemoose wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:39 pm
maggiecow wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:06 am What program are you using to show resources in the OP?

Using Xbox Game Bar (!) I'm showing about 5% CPU utilization and 30% GPU with a 5950 and RTX3090
I also like SpecialK, which also has very helpful frametime metrics and some other toggleable tweaks:

Image

Xbox game bar also good, it just has a bit less info.
I have problem with SpecialK. I got the RGB warning when I started it. Did you do something special ?

Also everything is so dark with SpecialK. I found in another thread that I needed to enable the HDR in special K and tweak some stuff to see something on my monitor in 4k.

I just saw your screenshot and I wanted to know if you did something special in SpecialK ? :mrgreen:
See the image in this post: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2#p4971062

Set sRGB bypass to "passthrough," and be sure to use the compatibility specialk config.

TBH I'm not sure about HDR, that may require some additional tweaks.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:31 pm
by firemad
brucethemoose wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:01 pm
firemad wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:55 pm
brucethemoose wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:39 pm

I also like SpecialK, which also has very helpful frametime metrics and some other toggleable tweaks:

Image

Xbox game bar also good, it just has a bit less info.
I have problem with SpecialK. I got the RGB warning when I started it. Did you do something special ?

Also everything is so dark with SpecialK. I found in another thread that I needed to enable the HDR in special K and tweak some stuff to see something on my monitor in 4k.

I just saw your screenshot and I wanted to know if you did something special in SpecialK ? :mrgreen:
See the image in this post: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2#p4971062

Set sRGB bypass to "passthrough," and be sure to use the compatibility specialk config.

TBH I'm not sure about HDR, that may require some additional tweaks.
Oh yeah I was in passthrough ! If I didn't touch the HDR it's too dark.

I checked the specialk config.

I don't understand what exactly that I need to add ?

I tried with or without (not sure if I added the right stuff) and I didn't see anything different

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:17 pm
by brucethemoose
firemad wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:31 pm
brucethemoose wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:01 pm
firemad wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:55 pm

I have problem with SpecialK. I got the RGB warning when I started it. Did you do something special ?

Also everything is so dark with SpecialK. I found in another thread that I needed to enable the HDR in special K and tweak some stuff to see something on my monitor in 4k.

I just saw your screenshot and I wanted to know if you did something special in SpecialK ? :mrgreen:
See the image in this post: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2#p4971062

Set sRGB bypass to "passthrough," and be sure to use the compatibility specialk config.

TBH I'm not sure about HDR, that may require some additional tweaks.
Oh yeah I was in passthrough ! If I didn't touch the HDR it's too dark.

I checked the specialk config.

I don't understand what exactly that I need to add ?

I tried with or without (not sure if I added the right stuff) and I didn't see anything different
I would recommend asking in the SpecalK discord or forums, tbh.

Re: Post your DW2 PC resource utilization

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:25 am
by ClassicAz
firemad wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:53 pm
ClassicAz wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm
firemad wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:47 am

Agree. I posted my solution in the AMD request help in the technical subforum. Hope dev will fix it too.
I had a play with fixing the clock yesterday. It didn't really seem to make a material difference to actual in game performance :(
Oh :cry: well it's depend of the GPU of my AMD. I have a very powerful one so I guess if you are in the lower or middle end it won't matter for my fix.
I've a 6800xt, it appears disabling fixedtimestep rendering has unlocked quite a bit of framerate for me.